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    Default Another Lloyds Business Claim Settled

    Thanks to Bob Egerton for the following message:



    Lloydsicon have settled another business account claim. The claim was for £9,310 plus court fees and it was issued on 5 October.

    Truro Court put the claim on stay before Lloyds were even asked to file a defenceicon and despite the claimant pointing out that it was a business account and not covered by the test case.

    Then, out of the blue, a couple of days before Christmas, Lloyds wrote to the client and conceded defeat with their usual "it's not worth us going to court" letter - not worth going to court for £9,000?, pull the other one!

    This is the second Lloyds business account claim that has been settled recently; plus an RBSicon claim that had been dragging on since March and which had twice had hearing dates set, both of which were cancelled when the court put the claim on stay, then took it off, then put it back on.

    Why would the banks settle these claims?

    In the test case, the banks are asking for a declaration that the common law rule on penalties vs. liquidated damages does not apply to these charges. If the banks thought that they had any prospect of winning that argument, it would make no sense to concede defeat on a claim at this stage.

    Therefore, they must think that they are not going to win that argument. But if they cannot win that argument, they cannot win the UTCCR argument; or at least it would be a pyrrhic victory to win the UTCCR argument and lose the common law argument because they would have to pay up on all claims anyway.

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    Default Re: Another Lloyds Business Claim Settled

    Thanks for posting that message Alan. It's very encouraging for ltsbicon business claiamnts, myself included!

    I've posted a link on Photoman's business thread.

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    Default Re: Another Lloyds Business Claim Settled

    Good news indeed. Following the recouping of bank charges on my business account I have recently had some positive news concerning BLRI (Business Loan Repayment Insurance). My contention is that the this was mis-soldicon to me. Lloydsicon have now refunded the full premium plus interesticon.

    My advice has hardly any legal foundation whatsoever, however you never know it it might just work!

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    LBA 21.10.2006
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    Offer of approx 50% £2200.00 22.11.2006
    Full settlement £4500 received 03.01.2007
    Smile settled in full
    Barclaycard settled in full
    RBS Worldwide settled in full
    Lloyds TSB settled in full £750.00
    Lloyds TSB settled in Full £275.00 11.04.2007
    Lloyds TSB business account £1376.00 AQ filed
    Lloyds TSB Business account settled in full 21.05.07

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    Default Re: Another Lloyds Business Claim Settled

    Great to see, and further backs up the contentions and basis of claim for Business claimants.

    Elsinore, I notice in your sig you have some Business and loan account claims against Lloydsicon ongoing.
    Have you any news on any further progress on these ...... or have you been too busy helping others to be able to concentrate on your own claims?

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    Default Re: Another Lloyds Business Claim Settled

    Quote Originally Posted by photoman View Post

    Elsinore, I notice in your sig you have some Business and loan account claims against Lloydsicon ongoing.
    Have you any news on any further progress on these ...... or have you been too busy helping others to be able to concentrate on your own claims?

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    No, not too busy, just biding my time and allowing LTSB to dig a hole for themselves!

    Happy New Year to you
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    Default Re: Another Lloyds Business Claim Settled

    Letter to Lloydsicon sent - you have reminded me that o/d has now reached level of charges they owe us - in fact when you add on interesticon they owe us £200 so I have asked for a cheque (business account)


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    Default Re: Another Lloyds Business Claim Settled

    Good news you are fortunate.

    I have a business claim started Feb 06 for £4000. About to put a further claim in for £2000 extra in charges they have levied this year.

    This was due in Court August but was stayed on application by Lloydsicon. I appealed against this on the Common Law basis it being a business account, but the Judge ruled to uphold the stay until after the test case.

    Any details re the Truro case it may be worth writing.


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    Default Re: Another Lloyds Business Claim Settled

    Quote Originally Posted by alanfromderby View Post
    Thanks to Bob Egerton for the following message:



    Lloydsicon have settled another business account claim. The claim was for £9,310 plus court fees and it was issued on 5 October.

    Truro Court put the claim on stay before Lloyds were even asked to file a defenceicon and despite the claimant pointing out that it was a business account and not covered by the test case.

    Then, out of the blue, a couple of days before Christmas, Lloyds wrote to the client and conceded defeat with their usual "it's not worth us going to court" letter - not worth going to court for £9,000?, pull the other one!

    This is the second Lloyds business account claim that has been settled recently; plus an RBSicon claim that had been dragging on since March and which had twice had hearing dates set, both of which were cancelled when the court put the claim on stay, then took it off, then put it back on.

    Why would the banks settle these claims?

    In the test case, the banks are asking for a declaration that the common law rule on penalties vs. liquidated damages does not apply to these charges. If the banks thought that they had any prospect of winning that argument, it would make no sense to concede defeat on a claim at this stage.

    Therefore, they must think that they are not going to win that argument. But if they cannot win that argument, they cannot win the UTCCR argument; or at least it would be a pyrrhic victory to win the UTCCR argument and lose the common law argument because they would have to pay up on all claims anyway.

    Bob Egerton
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    Have you go the POCicon for a business account with Lloyds anywhere ? regards Gaz


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    Default Re: Another Lloyds Business Claim Settled

    Take a look at Photoman's post 990 here

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...t-lets-50.html

    and do take note of his cautionary comments.

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    Default Re: Another Lloyds Business Claim Settled

    Quote Originally Posted by elsinore View Post
    Take a look at Photoman's post 990 here

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...t-lets-50.html

    and do take note of his cautionary comments.

    Els
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