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    Have recieved a defence from RBSicon via Cobbetts Solicitors, with a request under CPA part 18icon. This is a letter I have drafted in reply. Any opinions?

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    Default Re: RBS Defence Recieved

    Have recieved a defence from RBSicon via Cobbetts Solicitors, with a request under CPA part 18icon. This is a letter I have drafted in reply. Any opinions please?


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    Dear Sir or Madam

    I am writing regarding correspondence received from you today consisting of your defence and request for further information in accordance with CPR part 18.

    As you are probably aware CPR part 18 is not applicable to claims under the small claims track, and only the court can request this information. I find your reference to this and your deadline of 5th July a deliberate attempt to intimidate and mislead me as you are aware I am self representing.

    I am enclosing information from the DCAicon website in relation to the Civil Procedure Rules and Small Claims Track for your information.

    I am more than willing to provide the requested information if the court deems it necessary.



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    Don't let them intimidate you ,sit tight, refuse any offers they make untill you get the one for the full amount. trust me you WILL get all your money.not too sure what the cpa 18 is all about but i'd bet it's just another angle theyr'e trying to pull good luck


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    RBSicon have requested loads of further information under the Civil Procedureicon Rules (CPR) part 18 however on this site and according to the department for constitutional affairs website CPR part 18 does not apply to the small claims track.

    RBS has sent these requests to other claimants and also they put in a deadline for responding and make out it has come from the court. Only the court as far as I can see are allowed to request further information -hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong before I send this letter.


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    The part 18icon request is standard fare from Cobbetts. Don't answer it if you don't want to.


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    Default Re: RBS Defence Recieved

    part 18icon does not apply to the small claims track. Therefore there is no need to respond to any inquiries made under part 18

    I see no point in responding to a part 18 inquiry other than to point out that you consider that the inquiry is intimidatory as part 18 is excluded and that you intend to bring the intimidation to the notice of the court.

    Hopefully this would deliver a little shock to the solicitors


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    I am responding with the following letter. Is it ok?

    Dear Sir or Madam

    I am writing regarding correspondence received from you today consisting of your defence and request for further information in accordance with CPR part 18.

    As you are probably aware CPR part 18 is not applicable to claims under the small claims track, and only the court can request this information. I find your reference to this and your deadline of 5th July a deliberate attempt to intimidate and mislead me as you are aware I am self representing.

    I am enclosing information from the DCAicon website in relation to the Civil Procedureicon Rules and Small Claims Track for your information.

    However, as a matter of good faith, I have attached a breakdown of the charges that I am reclaiming. To avoid any further confusion on your part I have included the account name, number and sort code. However, I would have thought that, as your client is the provider of this account, that they would have access to this information.

    The particulars of claim on my claim form clearly lists the relevant laws and regulations, But I am also enclosing these again for your further reference

    I am more than willing to provide further information if the court deems it necessary.
    also enclosing the following after reading another thread by pac1208. Hopefully it will quicken up the process!!!

    The claimant holds bank account number####### with the defendant that is conductedon their standard terms and conditionsicon. Theclaimant is seeking the return of money taken by the defendant during the past 6 yearsicon in
    relation to Unauthorised overdrafticon,Referral,Chq/DD/SO Unpaid and Default Notice Charges. These charges are a disproportionate penaltyand therefore unenforceable as they arecontrary to common law. Further, as a
    disproportionate penalty they are invalidunder the Unfair (Contracts) Terms Act 1977 s.4 and under the Unfair Terms in Consumer
    Contracts Regulations 1999. Para.8 and sch.2(1)(e). In the event that the charges are not a penalty then they are unreasonable within the meaning of the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982 s.15. The claimant has
    repeatedly asked the defendant to return the money but they have not done so or attempted to justify their charges.



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    Sounds good, I'd like to think that the intimidation bit really annoys them!

    Good luck.

    24/04/06 - Capital One - £170.00 - Court Claim Acknowledged - Defendant intends to defend claim
    18/05/06 - Full settlement received (£170.00) + another £20 for charges added after claim issued.

    16/05/06 - RBS - Court Claim Submitted - Total £4900 (inc. Interest + Court Fee + Allocation Fee)
    22/05/06 - Acknowledged by RBS
    16/06/06 - RBS Defence Received
    29/06/06 - Settlement offer from Cobbetts LPP £2,500
    22/07/06 - Hearing date given as 27th October, York County Court
    25/07/09 - Cheque received from Cobbets for £4800!! only £100 to go!!

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    Just a quick update, heard nothing from Cobbetts for months and have still got court date for november. Getting a bit worried now!!!


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    maybe give cobbetts a ring verity? they settled with me the day after I gou court date for November.

    Keep us informed hunxx

    NatWest - Settled in full 22/05/06

    RBS- Prelim sent 9/05/06 £1,147
    £500 offer 27/05/06, rejected 30/05/06
    LBA sent 25/05/06
    MCOL 15/06/06
    Defence received 20/07/06
    Settled in full 01/09/06 wahey!!!!!!!!!

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    maybe give Cobbetts a ring Verity, I received full payment the day after getting my court date, or if you don't want to ring perhaps an email.

    Keep us informed hun xx

    NatWest - Settled in full 22/05/06

    RBS- Prelim sent 9/05/06 £1,147
    £500 offer 27/05/06, rejected 30/05/06
    LBA sent 25/05/06
    MCOL 15/06/06
    Defence received 20/07/06
    Settled in full 01/09/06 wahey!!!!!!!!!


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