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true it can be a pain, but if these ' duffers' werent out and about, sowing and reaping and bringing in the cows and whatever, we wouldnt have milk for our cornflakes.

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What an ill thought out and badly worded peition.

 

Do we ban all tractors, even those in the most rural areas, and those that only need to travel a few hundred yards from one field to another.

 

Seems that whoever's dumb idea this was should have put a little more time and effort into the wording of this, as this petition in it's current looks like the work of a primary school student.

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All these points have been raised on another forum I am a member on

 

The facts are-

 

1.they don't pay road tax

 

2.they run on rebated diesel

 

3.because of the above,they are limited in the distance they are allowed to travel from their farm

 

4.they disregard point 3

 

5.they insist on driving into towns at the busiest times of the day with enormous queues behind them-and almost invariably refuse to pull over to let people past when the opportunity arises

 

6.I don't see many fields or cows in the centre of towns

 

 

the fact is they are just too lazy to change their wellies to let them get into their cars when they want to go somewhere-so they cause traffic jams by using their John Deere-and they are probably running their cars on rebated diesel as well.....

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That would make a little more sense than the sad excuse of a petition currently being offered, although I think it would be hard work condensing all relevant facts into one petition

 

I did not say I disagree with the issue, but how do you expect it to be take seriously with the current text.

 

Your post, however, is a bit like tarring them all with the same brush, and I am sure you will agree not all Tractor drivers act the way you describe, that is just silly.

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Good idea for tactors, it stops all the boy racers getting flashed and then complaining they got 6 points for doing 90mph on a speed limit of 70 mph.

Foot

Right

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Gas.

 

Save yourself some brass and no points on your licence.

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Good idea for tactors, it stops all the boy racers getting flashed and then complaining they got 6 points for doing 90mph on a speed limit of 70 mph.

Foot

Right

Off

Gas.

 

Save yourself some brass and no points on your licence.

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How about banning City dwellers from country roads during

 

Lambing Season

Planting Season

Harvest time

 

and then the city dwellers with rural retreats as second homes would never be able to pollute the country side:rolleyes: at weekends, and then maybe farmers and their families could afford a house near where they work

 

If you want to ban something get rid of Caravans

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its bizzar the things people will think of when bored

this falls into the catagory of ban cockrels from crowing.

yes i hate being behind them and caravans too but its life,get used to it,take a chill pill or just move to the city

I`ve never seen a tractor in the middle of liverpool or any other major city

but i do drive a milk float and i`ve had people shouting at me for not going fast enough tho i`m flat out at the time

Another one is shouting get your brake lights fixed.DUH it doesn`t go fast enough to need to use the brakes

Life`s too fast sloooooooooooooooooow down,leave earlier whatever it takes

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What is it that makes some people blame other road users for delays, when the main cause of delays is.....cars. Not horses, bikes, tractors, buses but miles of stationary cars in line. Not a lot of point trying to drive at high speed when at the next village, the serious hold-ups begin and the average speed is horse and cart era!:D

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The law states that agricultural vehicles using Red Diesel may legally be used on the public road when travelling from one part of the owner's land to another part of the same owners land. The maximum milage allowed being 8 miles per week.

 

What is needed, is for this legislation to be enforced.

 

The OP and I live in N.Ireland, where agribusiness and those involved in it have an apparently untouchable god-like status.

 

Ive seen tractors being used as a shopping vehicle, with a grumpy looking sod sat in the driving seat, with a roll up fag hanging out of the corner of his mouth and the missus on the outside of the cab, clutching Sainsburys bags leaving the aforementioned supermarket!

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think the police have more important things to do than arrest some farmer cos he`s doing too many miles using pink diesel

the amount of people who bothered to sign this petition would seem to indicate how important it is in the great sceme of things if its not tractors it would be caravans or milk floats or other people driving their cars too slowly.

some people will always want to go faster than the person in front

people should plan their journey time better to account for such things

every morning i see them on their way to work some actually try to get as close to me as they possibly can cos i have the gall to be driving a milkfloat down the road and slowing them down on their rush to work,one day i had two bottles of milk knocked out of my hands by someone`s door mirror so you can imagine how close they got and in my two years of doing the job i have had to pick up more squashed family pets than i can count.

people need to slow down cos there will always be something that gets in their way and one day it will,and no doubt has been on occasion a person who`s life they will take all in the name of getting there quicker

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SC- you live in Liverpool and clearly have no idea of the road system in N.Ireland and the insane delays caused by selfish bumpkins bouncing along on 70 year old Fordsons and wee grey Fergies! :eek:

 

 

(And they only only use them because they dont know how to operate the traction engine, which is quietly rusting away in the barn!)

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