Patricia Pearl - Small Claims Procedure - A Practical Guide


An excellent guide for the layperson in how to use the County Court - a must if you are intending to start a claim.

£19.99 + £1.50 (P&P)




Last Will and Testament Kit


Make a legally valid will without the fuss and expense of a solicitor - includes a full step-by-step guide.

£9.99 + £1.50 (P&P)

BAILIFFS - The Law and Your Rights

Written by John Kruse, one of the leading experts on Bailiff Law, this consumer friendly guide is essential reading for anyone who comes into contact with a bailiff.

The book is easy to understand and clearly explains the rights a bailiff has, and also what they cannot do when collecting debts and repossessing goods etc.

£13.95 + £2.00 (P&P)


Reclaim the Right Ltd. - reg. 05783665 in the UK

reg. office:
923 Finchley Road
London
NW11 7PE



+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3
1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 60
  1. #1
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    im4347 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    273

    Question Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC**DISCONTINUED**

    Hi all

    My wife and I have debts with the following companies:

    EGG/DLC - credits cards both of us
    Barclaycard/Mercers - credit cards both of us
    American Expressicon/Newman - credit card myself
    CitiCard/Capital Collection Agency - credit card myself
    Marbles/HFC Bank - credit card myself
    Natwesticon - credit card myself

    (will be starting separate threads for each company)

    Anyway, getting back to EGG

    All was going fine until both of us were out of jobs for the past 3 months, and are now on Job Seekers Allowance. I called EGG and explained my situation and they were not at all helpful, instead they issued me with a default letter stating that I have 28 days to bring my arrears up to date otherwise they would serve me with a default, which they did and passed my account onto DLC.

    I then had numerous calls and letters from DLC regarding payments. I told them my situation and arranged to pay small amounts each month (£5-10), even though they wanted £100 per month, which was impossible. A few months later I received a letter from APLINS Solicitors giving me 14 days to pay the Full Amount!!!

    We then sent all our credit card companies and DCAicon's a request for our CCAs on Thursday 1st November 2007.

    On Friday 2nd November I received the 'Particulars of Claim' from my EGG card which are as follows:

    "The Claimants claim against the Defendant is for the amount due and unpaid as at todays date under a running monthly credit account."

    Amount Claimed: £9218.15
    Court Fee: £190
    Solicitor's Costs: £100
    Total Amount £9508.15

    Obviously there are late charges, overlimit charges and interesticon included in the amount claimed.

    The Court is Northampton county courticon', I contacted them and asked for the 'Date of Acknowledgment', which is the 19th November 2007, and the 'Defence due date' being a further 14 days from then, 3rd December 2007.

    Any advice appreciated as to where we go from here?

    Thanks
    IM

    Similar Threads:

  2. #2
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,487

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi,

    if the default notice which Eggicon Served you is made up of penalty charges it is possible in my opinion to have the default over turned on the authority of Woodchester Lease Management Services Ltd v Swain
    and Co - [2001] GCCR 2255 which set out that where a default notice contained an incorrect figure it is void and would be cancelled.

    if this default notice figures are made up of penalty charges its fair to say the figures are wrong and therefore gives you sufficient grounds to challenge it in my opinion

    also, have you requested a copy of the credit agreement and other documents which Egg are going to rely upon? you are entitled to this info and can request they supply it under the Civil Proceedure Rules

    this would give you the opportunity to atleast buy you some time, the court if in agreement with this arguement would rule the default notice invalid and could end this action as the claimant would not be allowed to take legal action without first issuing a default notice under s87 CCA 1974

    If you want any further help please let us know

    Kind Regards
    paul



  3. #3
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,487

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC



    In the XXXX county courticon
    Claimant -v- (YOUR NAME)
    Claim Number: (CLAIM NUMBER)


    Dear XXX

    REQUEST FOR INFORMATION

    I have received a recent court claim from your organisation. In order to file a defence and counter claim I require some information. Given that this matter is now the subject of legal proceedings, you are obliged to disclose under the Civil Procedure Rules, the information and documents detailed below.

    The information must be furnished within fourteen days of the receipt of this letter. If you fail to comply, this will be reported to the Court, a copy of this letter will be provided as evidence to the same and an Order enforcing your compliance will be sought.

    1. A true copy of the executed credit agreement and any terms and conditionsicon that applied to the account at the time of default and at the time the account was opened.
    2. All records you hold on me relevant to this case, including but not limited to:

    a. Transcriptions of all telephone conversations recorded and any notes made in relation to telephone conversations by your company, or by any previous creditor
    b. Where there has been any event in my account history over this period which has required manual intervention by any person, I require disclosure of any indication or notes which have either caused or resulted in that manual intervention, or other evidence of that manual intervention in relation to my account formerly held with Egg Plc.
    c. True copies of any notice of assignment and/or default notice or enforcement notice that you or the original creditor sent me, with a copy of any proof of postage that you hold.
    d.Documents relating to any insurance added to the account, including the insurance contract and terms and conditionsicon, date it was added and deleted (if applicable).
    e. Details of any collection charge added to the account; specifically, the date it was levied, the amount of the charge, a detailed financial Breakdownicon of how the charge was calculated, and what the charge covers.
    f. Specific details of the fees/charges levied by any other agency in respect of this account and a detailed breakdown of said fees/charges and what each charge relates to and on what date said fees/charges were levied.
    g. A genuine copy of any notice of fair use of my data as required by the Data Protection Act 1998
    h. A list of third party agencies to whom you have disclosed my personal dataicon and a summary of the nature of the information you have disclosed.
    i. Copies of statements for the entire duration of the credit agreement.

    3. Any other documents you seek to rely on in court.


    I will require this information within the next fourteen days. I must advise you that if the information is not forthcoming, it will be reported to the Court that you are trying to frustrate proceedings and denying me the opportunity to file a defence and counter claim.

    Yours sincerely,

    Heres the CPR letter, i have borrowed this one from tomterm8s thread,


  4. #4
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    im4347 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    273

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Thanks Paul, sent the CPR letter today by special delivery.

    Further to you're questions, we did send off a letter and a payment of £1 for my CCA on Thursday 1st November. Have'nt heard anything as yet but, I will give them a call tomorrow to chase it up.

    With regards to the default, I had a few missed payments and when I checked online lastnight (as Eggicon operates mostly online) to see my statements and to check what charges and interesticon is being added to my account, surprisingly my last few statements are not there....bearing in mind I have made a few payments, £50, £5, £10 over the last 3 months, and only the £10 is showing in the statements. I have checked with my Bank that I made the payments through and according to them, EGG/DLC have received the money for all 3 payments!!

    I will check with EGG on what grounds they served me the default.

    Will keep you posted.

    IM


  5. #5
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,487

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi IM

    the key here is that the figure that you are required to pay to remedy the default contained in the Default Notice MUST be accurate. therefore if they have put 900 for example and it should have only been 850 the default notice is invalid and therefore they have not complied with the consumer credit act 1974 provisions and therefore are NOT entitled to take legal action as they are not allowed to enforce the debt through court until they issue a default notice

    basically what i am saying is if the figure they are quoting in the default notice is made up of late payment charges even if its only one it gives grounds to challenge the validity of the notice

    Regards
    paul


  6. #6
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    im4347 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    273

    Exclamation Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi

    Please see attached a letter I received from Hillesden Securities with regards to my CCA request on the !st Nov. I actually sent it to DLC but these guys have replied.

    Still waiting for a response with regards to the CPR letter that I sent Special Delivery on the 5th Nov directly to Eggicon, which they have received on the 6th Nov, bearing in mind the 'Date of Acknowledgment', which is the 19th November 2007.

    Regards,

    IM

    Attached Files

  7. #7
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    shane5408 Highly informative shane5408 Highly informative shane5408 Highly informative shane5408 Highly informative shane5408 Highly informative shane5408 Highly informative shane5408's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Mar 2007
    I am in
    Chilworth, Hampshire
    Posts
    993

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Well thats a bunch of, whats the word, Bowlarks! they state that if they cannot supply a copy of the original they will send you a 'true copy' of the agreement and that this will suffice the criteria of a s78 request.

    True

    Can they enforce the debt without the original agreement that is signed by the debtor, Absolutely not, s127(3) is a complete defence, without the original signed agreement an enforcement order cannot be granted

    regards,
    shane


  8. #8
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    im4347 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    273

    Question Re: im4347 Vs EGG/DLC Date of Service advice needed

    Hi

    The date of service/acknowledgment of service is Monday 19th November 2007 (3 days time), I 've not received my CCA or a reply to my CPR letter apart from the letter I had from Hillesden regarding my CCA (see above).

    I'm planning on replying to the Court online (MCOL), as the 12 days for Eggicon are up today, leaving me very little time to get back with my response to the Court.

    Can anyone advice me on how to complete the form online and is it possible to include my letters, request for the CCA, my CPR letter, and the letter from Hillesden?

    Thanks,

    IM


  9. #9
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,487

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi,

    are you ok preparing your defence to this claim?

    if you need any help let us know and im sure we can put up a good defence for you

    Regards
    paul


  10. #10
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    im4347 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    273

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi Paul

    Thanks for your reply.

    The acknowledgment of service is on Monday, do I ask it to be extended to 28 days?..........and am I correct in defending the case?..........

    I would appreciate your help in preparing my defence.

    regards,

    IM


  11. #11
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,487

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi, right you need to acknowledge service, the best way to do this is through Mcol ( Money claim online) .it should tell you on the claim form you were sent how to do that

    now acknowledging service and stating your intention to defend will give you an extra 14 days to file your defence

    now then, have they supplied you a copy of your credit agreement in response to your cca request?

    have you requested Disclosure under the CPR?

    i can help you writing the defence but its your decision ultimatley if you want to defend, i tell everyone the same at the end of the day, you will be the one attending court not me.



    Regards

    paul


  12. #12
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    im4347 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    273

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi Paul

    I 've not received my CCA or a reply to my CPR letter apart from the letter I had from Hillesden regarding my CCA (Please see above post 14th Nov for the letter attachment).

    With regards to the CPR letter that I sent Special Delivery on the 5th Nov directly to Eggicon, they have received it on the 6th Nov, but have still not heard anything back as yet.

    Let me know what you think of the reply from Hillesden.

    I will go online (MCOL) and file my Acknowlegdment of service today.

    Regards,

    IM


  13. #13
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,487

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    can you also post the full particulars of claim

    appologies if you have already done so but i just wanted to make sure we have the full facts of what they have pleaded in their claim


  14. #14
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    im4347 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    273

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi Paul

    The Particulars of Claim are in the very first post to this thread and are as follows:

    "The Claimants claim against the Defendant is for the amount due and unpaid as at todays date under a running monthly credit account."

    Amount Claimed: £9218.15
    Court Fee: £190
    Solicitor's Costs: £100
    Total Amount £9508.15

    Agreement was taken out on 17/09/2001
    Claimant's Solicitor (Aplins): Anthony Scott Andrews

    That's all the info on it.

    Obviously there are late charges, overlimit charges and interesticon included in the amount claimed.

    Hope this helps.

    Regards,

    IM


  15. #15
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,487

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    right ok, well not really sufficiently particularized pursuant to the CPR part 16 for starters

    well, its up to you with regards to defending, as things stand now at this moment in time. their case is fairly weak, however, if they produce a valid agreement compliant with the CCA 1974 this could change

    however, i am of the opinion that you can only defend what you have been given

    the defence will be a basic holding defence that we can use,should you decide your going to defend,based on the fact that they have not disclosed the requested info and you cannot prepare a defence without the documents youve asked for

    the main thing is not to worry too much at this stage

    regards
    paul


  16. #16
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    im4347 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    273

    Question Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi

    We did the Acknowlegdment of service by MCOL (19th November 2007)and I am defending it, and now the 28days are up on Monday 3rd December 2007.

    I have not heard back from Eggicon with regards to the CPR letter I sent to them via special delivery on the 5th November 2007, which has been received by them, nor have I received the CCA as requested in my letter to DLC on 1st November 2007.

    The only response I've had back is the letter from Hillesden (see previous post 14th November 2007 for the attached letter).

    The 'Defence Due date' is this coming Monday (3rd Dec), and I need some urgent advice to what steps to take now.

    Thanks,
    IM


  17. #17
    Classic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Make a contribution
    ncf355 Informative ncf355 Informative ncf355 Informative ncf355 Informative ncf355 Informative ncf355's Avatar

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    1,508

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi IM,

    probably best to send pt2537 a PM and bring his attention to this

    If you don't hear from him by tmw evening, let me know (by PM)

    omnia praesumuntur legitime facta donec probetur in contrarium


    Please note: I am not a member of the legal profession, all advice given is purely my opinion, if in doubt consult a professional

  18. #18
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,487

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi Matt,

    just seen the thread,im having a think on whats best here,

    i have a defence on the pc that will cover this so all it will need is an amendmenticon and we are ready to go



    Regards
    paul


  19. #19
    Royalties Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative pt2537 Highly authoritative

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,487

    Default Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    In the xxxxxxxx county courticon
    Claim number






    Between

    xxxxxxxxxxx- Claimant

    and



    xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Defendant


    Defence


    • Except where otherwise mentioned in this defence, I neither admit nor deny any allegation made in the claimants Particulars of Claim and put the claimant to strict proof thereof.
    • The Defendant is embarrassed in pleading to the Particulars of Claim as it stands at present, inter alia: -
    • The claimants’ particulars of claims disclose no legal cause of action and they are embarrassing to the defendant as the claimant's statement of case is insufficiently particularised and does not comply or even attempt to comply with CPR part 16. In this regard I wish to draw the courts attention to the following matters;

    a)The Particulars of Claim are vague and insufficient and do not disclose an adequate statement of facts relating to or proceeding the alleged cause of action. No particulars are offered in relation to the nature of the written agreement referred to, the account number of the agreement, the method the claimant calculated any outstanding sums due, or any default notices issued or any Notice of Assignment required for the claimant to have a legitimate right of action for the purported debt or any other matters necessary to substantiate the claimant’s claim.

    b)A copy of the purported written agreement that the claimant cites in the Particulars of Claim, and which appears to form the basis upon which these proceedings have been brought, has not been served attached to the claim form.

    c)A copy of any evidence of both the scope and nature of any default, and proof of any amount outstanding on the alleged accounts, has not been served attached to the claim form.

    4.Consequently, I deny all allegations on the particulars of claim and do not know what case I have to meet.


    5.In respect of that which is denied, on xx/xx/2007 I requested that the claimant provide a true copy of the executed credit agreement, which they claim exists between parties pursuant to section 78(1) Consumer Credit Act 1974. The Consumer Credit (Prescribed Periods for Giving Information) Regulations 1983 (SI 1983/1569) sets out that the claimant must comply with such request in 12 working days of receipt of such request.



    6.Section 78 (6) consumer Credit Act 1974 sets out the consequences of failure to comply with such request and states

    s78 (6) If the creditor under an agreement fails to comply with subsection (1)—

    (a) he is not entitled, while the default continues, to enforce the agreement; and

    (b) if the default continues for one month he commits an offence.


    7.It is drawn to the courts attention that the claimant has failed to comply with my request and is in clear default of its obligations under s78 (1) Consumer Credit Act 1974 and it is averred that the claimant has no right of action until such time as the default is remedied and the true copy of the executed agreement is produced before the defendant containing the prescribed terms under Consumer Credit (Agreements) Regulations 1983 (SI 1983/1553) and signed in the prescribed manner by the debtor and creditor

    8.Therefore since the documents have not been supplied as requested pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974 I deny that I am liable to the claimant and put the claimant to strict proof that such enforceable agreement between parties exists

    9.Further to the case, in an attempt to ascertain what grounds the claimant is bringing this action and to allow me to prepare my defence I requested on xx/xx/2007 the disclosure of information pursuant to the Civil Procedure Rules, which is vital to this case from the claimant. The information requested amounted to copies of the Credit Agreement referred to in the particulars of claim and any default or termination notices, a transcript of all transactions, including charges, fees, interesticon, alleged repayments by myself and payments made by the original creditor. Also any other documents the Claimant seeks to rely on, including any default notices or termination notice, and a copy of the Notice of Assignment required to give the claimant a legitimate right of action.

    10.To Date the claimant has ignored my request under the CPR and I have not received any such documentation requested. As a result it has proven difficult to compose this defence without disclosure of the information requested

    11.The courts attention is drawn to the fact that the without disclosure of the requested documentation pursuant to the Civil Procedure Rules I have not yet had the opportunity to asses if the documentation the claimant claims to be relying upon to bring this action even contains the prescribed terms required in Consumer Credit (Agreements) Regulations 1983 (SI 1983/1553) which was amended by Consumer Credit (Agreements) (amendmenticon) Regulations 2004 (SI2004/1482). The prescribed terms referred to are contained in schedule 6 column 2 of the Consumer Credit (Agreements) Regulations 1983 (SI 1983/1553) and are inter alia: - A term stating the credit limit or the manner in which it will be determined or that there is no credit limit, A term stating the rate of any interest on the credit to be provided under the agreement and A term stating how the debtor is to discharge his obligations under the agreement to make the repayments, which may be expressed by reference to a combination of any of the following--
    1.Number of repayments;
    2.Amount of repayments;
    3.Frequency and timing of repayments;
    4.Dates of repayments;
    5.The manner in which any of the above may be determined; or in any other way, and any power of the creditor to vary what is payable



    12.The courts attention is also drawn to the fact that where an agreement does not have the prescribed terms as stated in point 11 it is not compliant with section 60(1) Consumer Credit Act 1974 and therefore not enforceable by s127 (3). The courts attention is also drawn to the authority of the House of Lords in Wilson-v- FCT [2003] All ER (D) 187 (Jul) which confirms that where a document does not contain the required terms under the consumer credit act 1974 and the Consumer Credit (Agreements) Regulations 1983 (SI 1983/1553) and Consumer Credit (Agreements) (Amendment) Regulations 2004 (SI2004/1482) the agreement cannot be enforced

    13.Notwithstanding the above, it is also drawn to the courts attention that no default notice required by s87 (1) Consumer Credit act 1974 has been attached to the particulars of claim

    14.It is neither admitted or denied that any Default Notice in the prescribed format was ever received and the Defendant puts the Claimant to strict proof that said document in the prescribed format was delivered to the defendant

    15.Notwithstanding point 13, I put the claimant to strict proof that any default notice sent to me was valid. I note that to be valid, a default notice needs to be accurate in terms of both the scope and nature of breach and include an accurate figure required to remedy any such breach. The prescribed format for such document is laid down in Consumer Credit (Enforcement, Default and Termination Notices) Regulations 1983 (SI 1983/1561) and Amendment regulations the Consumer Credit (Enforcement, Default and Termination Notices) (Amendment) Regulations 2004 (SI 2004/3237)

    16.Failure of a default notice to be accurate not only invalidates the default notice (Woodchester Lease Management Services Ltd v Swain and Co - [2001] GCCR 2255) but is a unlawful rescission of contract which would not only prevent the court enforcing any alleged debt, but give me a counter claim for damages Kpohraror v Woolwich Building Society [1996] 4 All ER 119


    17.Without Disclosure of the relevant requested documentation I am unable to assess if I am indeed liable to the claimant, nor am I able to asses if the alleged agreement is properly executed, contain the required prescribed terms, or correct figures to make such an agreement enforceable by virtue of s127 Consumer Credit Act 1974

    18.In view of the matters pleaded above, I respectfully request that the court gives consideration to whether the claimant’s statement of case should be struck out as disclosing no reasonable grounds for bringing the claim, and/or that it fails to comply with CPR Part 16.

    19.Alternatively if the court decides not to strike out the claimants case, it is requested that the court orders full disclosure of the requested documents pursuant to the Civil Procedure Rules

    20.Having instigated these proceedings without any legal basis for doing so, having failed to provide sufficient information required under the pre-trial protocols in order to investigate this claim, or indeed to provide a reasonable time period to investigate this matter, and having failed to investigate a dispute as required by the OFT debt collectionicon Guidelines I believe the Claimant’s conduct amounts to unlawful harassment under section 40 of The Administration of Justice Act1970. Furthermore, the Claimant’s behaviour is entirely vexatious and wholly unreasonable.


    21.I respectfully ask the permission of the court to amend this defence when the claimant provides the above documents



    :






    Statement of Truth


    I XXXXXXXX, believe the above statement to be true and factual


    Signed …………………

    Date


    here my suggestion for the defence, it will need to be amended to suit

    regards
    paul


  20. #20
    Basic Account Holder
    Help the CAG!!
    Download our toolbar
    im4347 Novitiate

    Follow Real_CAG on Twitter

    Cagger since
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    273

    Question Re: Help needed im4347 Vs EGG/DLC

    Hi guys,

    Thanks for the quick response.

    Paul thank you very much for the defence letter, reallly appreciate it.

    Shall I include my:
    • CCA request letter,
    • the CPR letter,
    • the proof of receipt of my CPR letter, and the
    • Hillesden reply letter
    with the defence letter?

    Regards,

    IM



Browsealoud
Video Tour



Reclaim the Right Ltd. - reg.05783665 in the UK reg. office:- 923 Finchley Road London NW11 7PE