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    Default FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    The FSA are due to announce today (27th September 2007) the review of the complaints handling waiver.

    There has been nothing posted on their website and there is yet to be a press release. I have called the FSA this morning and they are keeping tight lipped.

    I know it is wishful thinking but the waivericon could be revoked. Personally I believe the banks have failed to comply with the conditions set out in the waiver agreement, specifically in relation to the rules surrounding 'hardship cases'.

    As soon as anyone has any news please post it here. In the meantime I will continue to check the press section at the FSA website.

    I have my fingers crossed - but not hopeful.

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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    I think we've all got our fingers crossed. Just waiting for some sort of news now.


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    The FSA usually update their site around lunchtime. Yesterday's PPIicon report
    went up at 12.50


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    Just spoke to someone at the 'waiver team' who eiither seemed to know precious little about it of was extremely cagey.

    Although she said that the review was ''certainly happening'' she wasn't sure when it would be published. I reminded her that the FSA site clearly
    indicated it was today, she said ''I suppose that's right then'' (?)

    She promised to find out and get back to me.


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    I hope they do get back to you.

    They seemed pretty sheepish this morning when I called.

    Is it possible that the FSA has come under so much pressure for implementing the waivericon in the first place that they are going to wait until tomorrow to see if the banks enter their defence(s) for the test case before releasing their report?

    Perhaps the FSA know something we don't - like a possible compromise between the banks and the OFT?

    All specualtion I know but we are always last to find out and we know how the Banks FSA, OFT and fosicon were all in secret discussions before the July 27th announcement.


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    Let us know what you find out CRFX.

    I was kind of expecting any announcement or press release to be tomorrow. Remember they issued the waivericon on a Friday.


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    I spoke to the press office and they don't seemed to have been briefed.

    I'm beggining to think that the '2 month review' may mean it starts to be reviewed after 2 months and we won't get the results for a while.


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    I know what you are saying but I definately think that they will have to make some sort of announcement soonish - if only to clarify the situation around hardship claims.


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    Have heard from the FSA - waiver is currently being reviewed - no announcement will be made in the near future - look to the end of october for an update from them - it sucks I know - but there it is.


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    With all the complaints about the hardship cases you would think they would say something!

    What a bunch of wasters.


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    1. Companies House: Kevin Hughes(Compliance Manager-main) @ 02920 380 633
    2. CH : Lee Jenkins(prosecuting Amany Attia for SPML/PML) @ 02920 380 643
    3. CH : Mark Youde(accounts compliance) @ 02920 380 955
    4. Companies Investigation Branch(CIB) : Charlotte Allan @ 0207 596 6108
    (part of the Insolvency Service) investigating all the Lehman lenders
    5. CIB : Jeremy Pilcher('unofficial'-consumer/company law) : @ 0207 637 6231
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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    OK, so no info coming out today.

    The banks are still due to file their defences tomorrow.

    Will we get to see these? Or will we have to wait until the test case is over?


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    Quote Originally Posted by alecmac18 View Post
    Have heard from the FSA - waiver is currently being reviewed - no announcement will be made in the near future - look to the end of october for an update from them - it sucks I know - but there it is.
    You've just got to laugh really havn't you. It's like they havn't quite grasped the concept of time. It reminds me of the BBC news 24 trailer where the Vatacan correspondent quotes them as saying ''we work in years, not days''.


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    I'm actually seriously disappointed with them and have made it clear that if they do not intend to release any findings on the waivericon review then they should put out a press release to clarify this position.

    But I'll be laughing when they are taken to a judicial review..............


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    Something weird is happening there I'll tell ya:

    Still not posted board minuted for July yet.

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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    Makes you think they have something to hide doen't it!


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    1. Companies House: Kevin Hughes(Compliance Manager-main) @ 02920 380 633
    2. CH : Lee Jenkins(prosecuting Amany Attia for SPML/PML) @ 02920 380 643
    3. CH : Mark Youde(accounts compliance) @ 02920 380 955
    4. Companies Investigation Branch(CIB) : Charlotte Allan @ 0207 596 6108
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    5. CIB : Jeremy Pilcher('unofficial'-consumer/company law) : @ 0207 637 6231
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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    It's interesting that they were talking about an ''expected'' OFT test case
    in the June minutes. I also noticed that they spoke about realeasing a letter to Tony Blair under the Freedom of Information Act but that some
    of it would be censord.


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    Iv'e had a call back from a John Bromberg from the FSA waiver team in answer to my call yesterday to clarify the timetable for the waivericon review.

    The review hasn't in fact even started yet and will comence on 4 October.
    When I challenged him that their waiver anouncement clearly indicated it would take place 2 months from the date it was issued, he said there was
    a week's ''grace'' so that a full 2 months ''data'' could be received from the
    banks.

    They ''hope to have the review concluded by the end of October'' and will
    be publishing ''an overview of it sometime in November''.

    Asked what evidence they will be relying upon to judge whether the conditions of the waiver are being met by the banks ie filtering cases of
    hardship, he said, astonishingly, that they will be assessing complaints made to the.........wait for it....Banking Codeicon Standerds Board.

    So, happy everyone?


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    Happy Everyone:? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOO

    If its complaints to the Banking Codeicon Standards Board that he wants I suppose we can arrange a flood of them for him.

    But WTF? : The FSA includes details of financial hardship in it OWN waiver. And then passes the buck to the Banking Standards Board when people call them to task on it and simply ask for clarification. It's bonkers.

    Lets go for that judicial review CRFX, surely you've got enough to go on now....


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    Ok - Lets flood the Banking Codeicon standards board with complaints about HOW THE BANKS ARE FAILING TO LOOK AT HARDSHIPS CASES UNDER THE BANKING CODE:

    This is a 'material breach' under the banking code.


    CALL ON 0845 230 9394


    The website is here: Banking Code Standards Board




    What can the BCSB do?


    Any failure to fulfil a commitment or carry out an obligation under the Codes constitutes a ‘breach’. The seriousness of breaches can vary widely, from the simple and easily rectified, to major incidents or systemic failings. Whether or not we will take action over the breach depends upon its seriousness, which is assessed according to factors that are set out in the Compliance Policy contained within the Banking Code Rules. You can find these documents on our website.
    We will launch a formal investigation, with a view to possible disciplinary action, only where there are grounds for suspecting a “material breach” of the Codes, as defined in our Compliance Policy.
    A “material breach” will typically be a breach which has affected a large number of customers, was systematic, continued for a long period or is suspected of having been knowing or deliberate.
    In the case of a non-material breach, BCSB has to recognise that mistakes do inadvertently occur, even in the best managed businesses. In those circumstances, we require banks, building societies and card issuers to take steps to put the mistake right as soon as possible. They must keep records of each breach.


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    Default Re: FSA - Bank Charges 'Waiver Review' TODAY

    the correct link is Banking Code Standards Board



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