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    Default Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case?

    Just in case they try applying for stays against our credit card claims, it may be useful to pool our experiences.

    I dont think they will, but wouldn't put anything past them.

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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Good point - my Barlcaycard claim has just been transferred to my local court so I will see what happens....


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Has anyone in any of the other CCard threads sorted a standard letter out we need to either take to court or send to the court with the POCs to stop this happening - I know the law is different for lenders as opposed to banks, so there must be something we just need to quote.

    I doubt the CCards would bother trying this, but you never know, so this is a good idea - nice one Noomill


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Maybe get a mod/site helper to pop in?


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    The OFT's case rests upon the UTCCR, so do most of our CC claims. It wouldnt take the sharpest tool in the barrister's chambers to work out a reason for a stay based on a theme common to both unlawful bank charges and CC charges..


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    I filed my N1 against Barclaycard yesterday (along with N1 against Natwesticon credit card) and had an interesting response from the court who I feel were trying to get me NOT to issue my claims until the result of the test case.
    If I have a stay put on either of these, I will let you all know ...


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    I suppose the difference is the OFT have already agreed that the CCard charges were excessive (hence why they refund the £8 difference) however the OFt also said that the £12 was not reasonable until proven, and so leaves it open to interpretation. No such thing has been said against the banks. I know this comes under the UTCCR, but the fact the OFT have already impossed against the CCards may help?

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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Quote Originally Posted by pjdavies2000 View Post
    I suppose the difference is the OFT have already agreed that the CCard charges were excessive (hence why they refund the £8 difference) however the OFt also said that the £12 was not reasonable until proven, and so leaves it open to interpretation. No such thing has been said against the banks. I know this comes under the UTCCR, but the fact the OFT have already impossed against the CCards may help?

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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    The OFT has said that £12+ is excessive and unfair, not that they considered any actual figure unlawful, illegal or otherwise. They have always said that it would be up to to a Court to decide on that.

    Interesting response from your court, paintball. We'll just have to see how it runs.


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Yes indeed, just waiting to hear back from them. In the interim, I shall do some background reading on applying for removal of a stay.


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    Have you seen Warhorse has been successful in a pre-court settlement!!!

    CCards are still winning out of court!!!


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Good news indeed! My claim will be around £5K and removal of default, though! Cant see them being quite so accommodating in my case!


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Thats £5K with CI going back to 1986

    (Just in case the MIBs are reading!)


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Will be interesting to see what happens with yours then. Although I have sent my lbaicon off to BCArd, I may decide before N1 to up the ante to CI - and it would serve them right too!

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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Just add the compounded CI to your charges, and thats the amount they have unlawfully pocketed from you.

    A £5 charge from 1986 with CI is now well over £300.


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    I'm really worried about this OFT ruling. It seems to me that the test case is to establish a point of law - are the charges for providing a service or a penalty.

    BUT the CC charges are already established as a penalty are they not so the OFT ruling and any stays attempted could be countered by stating that these ARE penalty charges and as such are subject to proof of costs from banks.

    I am worried because I worked out I could be almost debt free by christmas if I can claim back my CC charges over the last 6 yearsicon, we are talking thousands of £ and I was really looking forward to getting my life back.


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    disgruntled- dont be worried or let it ruin your life.

    You are not alone.

    This is CAGicon. You have 160,000 chums and we are here to help.


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Sometimes the help is just tea and sympathy.

    Sometimes the assistance has the effect similar to that of a nuclear powered ferret in a particle accelerator, and can make qualified solicitors and barristers crawl away on their bellies.


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    Thanks! Really appreciated. Life is not very pleasant at the moment.

    What do you think to the oft ruling, am I right in thinking that it does not apply because they are already established in law as penalty charges or am I wrong, (wouldn't be surprised!).


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    Default Re: Any stays applied for against Barclaycard claims due to OFT bank charge test case

    I started this thread to act as an early warning system in case they tried to apply for stays in relation to credit card claims, the opinion is that they would be wasting their time if they tried.



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