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I received a letter from Connaught Collections to advise they were acting on behalf of 1st credit (Halifax) to say there were going to file for insolvancy (Bankrupt) as i had made no attempt to contact them regarding my outstanding loan. I havnt paid this for 3 years due to various problems that have arisen but they somehow managed to find me at my new address. Not wanting to be made bankrupt i decided to read the forums on here and served them a CCA request on 16/07/2007. I received a reply from Connaught on 18/07/2007 to say they had received my letter and the contents were noted. And to advise their files had now been closed and returned to 1st Credit as in dispute and any further contact regarding this should be made with 1st Credit. So i gather that Connaught cant supply the CCA and i doubt 1st Credit can by reading other posts on here.
My only concern is that after they had replied to my CCA request i also received the paperwork to say they had applied to make me bankrupt? Do i just ignore this notice as i have proof in writing saying they have closed the account?
What do i need to do next once the 12 days is up on 3rd August?
What dates are you looking at on the CCA response and the bankruptcy letters as I feel that these have simply crossed in the post.
I bet the CCA response was posted first class and the bankruptcy was second class.
IMHO, if this does go further with Connaughts name on it you have a cast iron defence as the haven't complied with your CCA and you have a passed back letter as well, so there is NO way they could possibly take you to court.
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Hi,
No they are not proper court documents, They are only from Connaughts. Its all the details of what action they plan to take next (applying to the court for Insolvancy) and it says i have 18 days to reply. There is another post on here about connaughts and the same letter being received.
The letter from them is dated 16/07/07 and i sent mine the 17/07/07 and they replied to mine on the 18/07/07 and i received it 19/07/07 but i didnt receive the 1st letter from them untill 3 days ago.
This is the details of the letter i received in the post.
Statutory Demand under section 268(1)(a) of the Insolvency Act 1986. Debt for Liquidated Sum Payable Immediately
at the top right is says: Form 6.1
There is no Court stamp anywhere.
The demand has been served on me by 1st credit (Halifax) limited.
and says "The creditor claims that you owe the sum of £13300 full particulars of which are set out on page 2, and that it is payable immediately and, to the extent of the sum demanded, is unsecured. The creditor demands that you pay the above debt or secure or compound for it to the creditors satisfaction.
signature of individual has been pp'd
and the authorised demand has come from Connaught collections obn behalf of 1st Credit.
On page 2 the particulars of debt are very vague and say:
"A - The debt was incurred by monies due under a financial agreement. The debtor is in breach of the repayment terms and has failed to adhere to the terms and conditions of the repayment arrangements. The debt has been assigned as shown on Part C (p3) herof.
B - The debt is in respect of outstanding monies owed to the creditor by the debtor for non-payment of a direct line agreement. the benefit of the debt having been assigned under an agreement to 1st Credit (Halifax) Limited.
C - The amount due at the date of the demand is £13300.
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Yeah i no its serious, but i have sent them a CCA request and received a response from Connaughts to say they have closed the file and returned it back to 1st credit as disputed. And any further contact needs to be with 1st Credit. As of yet 1st Credit have not contacted me since having the file returned. It seems like the letter from Connaughts crossed with mine in the post.
I hate to disagree with a Mod, but in this case it's a classic example of these "peoples" tactics.
For starters it ISN'T properly served. If posted it MUST be via FIRST class mail and not second as this is.
Also it would be stamped by the court as well.
Connaught are well known for this and they continue to do it.
There are a number of thread concerning these tactics, but as soon as a CCA is sent they run a mile and send the debt back to the original DCA.
As has already been mentioned the dates match perfectly for a cross in the post and as such this stat demand is as worthless as connaught's threats.
Thanks for the quick response, I thought that it would be worthless as i had already received confirmation that it had been returned to 1st credit, What steps do i take next?
You cannot rely on whether the letters crossed, it is vitally important to get the Stat Demand set aside - and certainly their failure to provide documents will be central to your set-aside application.
I have a case running at the moment where a charging order was entered "in error", but despite the bank writing to me to say it was done in error, they have failed to take any action to remove it, and I have had to apply for a set-aside.
If you do not apply to set-aside the SD with 18 days of service, Connaught Collections can immediately start bankruptcy proceedings, at which point you will find it more difficult to argue over the CCA request.
The SD is a tool which DCA's have started using more frequently, as it establishes the debt without the need for a lengthy county court case - and without the danger that the judge may impose a small weekly repayment plan.
Alan, Derby, UK.
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Alan, if thats the case surely the fact there is a letter saying that the file is closed and the account has been passed back would make a huge difference.
Would it be worth a call to the "issuing" court to see if it is real ??
The stat demand was sent and dated before my CCA. I sent my CCA after they had already posted the Stat demand and received a letter from them to say the contents of my letter have been noted and please be advised their file has now been closed on this matter and returned to 1st credit as in dispute.
Also the Stat demand has no court stamp on it. Seems like its just been sent from Connaughts.
As Alan is saying it might be worth a quick call to the "issuing" court to be 100% sure, and when it does end up being fake then a call to Trading Standards would be in order.
Alan, if thats the case surely the fact there is a letter saying that the file is closed and the account has been passed back would make a huge difference.
Would it be worth a call to the "issuing" court to see if it is real ??
Certainly that is correct. The difficulty with stat demands is that they are not issued by the court. Indeed 90% never get acted upon, and are just a means to frighten the debtor - however, if it is acted on, it can cause serious problems.
My approach would be to contact Connaught immediately and demand that in the light of their letter, they remove the SD. Using the threat that if it is not removed within 7 days - then set-aside action will commence, along with a claim for costs.
Alan, Derby, UK.
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What i dont understand is, Why would Connaughts reply to my CCA request and say the file is now closed and returned to 1st credit as in dispute? Surley i should now CCA 1st credit?