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    I have been in a long running dispute with Bristow & Sutor over a Council Tax Bill for several months now. They told me I had to pay 445 per month or else, at first i paid it just to keep them off my back, but I got made redundant and only had my partners income coming in, the 445 I was paying them became unsustainable. I have not let them into my property at any time, and have started to stand my ground with them, I have now refused to pay them and have said I will only deal with the council, my question is can they force entry now this new bill has been passed through government, or has the industry got to become fully regulated before it comes into force?

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    they cannot force entry.
    however anything that is open [window etc] they can use but they cannot 'force' their way in.
    the council are responsible for the actions of the bailiffs they enploy.
    go into the council, make a realistic PCM offer & get them to contact the bailiff direct. but you must pay what you say every month.

    i would be inclined to check if / how much, the bailiffs have charged
    there are strict guidelines on charges.

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    The Tribunals Courts & Enforcement Bill became law 2 weeks ago. However, this is a very large bill covering many different areas from debt, insolvency and enforcement which is contained in Part 3. Yes, it is PLANNED that some time IN THE FUTURE bailifs wil be given powers to break into homes. However, we were told that this will ONLY HAPPEN when all bailiffs are certificated and when a regulator is put in place. We are told that this will not be for 2 years.

    Also, it must be remembered that if a bailiff is enforcing a fine. ie: parking offence ( driving without insurance, speeding etc) or unpaid TV Licence etc, they CAN break into your home.

    For the more common debt, ie: council tax and unpaid parking chargeicon notices, the bailiff CANNOT break in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbie View Post
    The Tribunals Courts & Enforcement Bill became law 2 weeks ago. However, this is a very large bill covering many different areas from debt, insolvency and enforcement which is contained in Part 3. Yes, it is PLANNED that some time IN THE FUTURE bailifs wil be given powers to break into homes. However, we were told that this will ONLY HAPPEN when all bailiffs are certificated and when a regulator is put in place. We are told that this will not be for 2 years.

    Also, it must be remembered that if a bailiff is enforcing a fine. ie: parking offence ( driving without insurance, speeding etc) or unpaid TV Licence etc, they CAN break into your home.

    For the more common debt, ie: council tax and unpaid parking chargeicon notices, the bailiff CANNOT break in.
    Thanks for that i didn't just want to send my next letter off only to return one day with my front door hanging from its hinges. The last letter I got from the bailiff was if they could not collect what was outstanding they would return to client duly endorsed because of my refusal to deal with them. However in my letter I am about to send them I have explained I'm not refusing to pay, I'm just refusing to pay them and any payments will be sent to the council along with this years council tax monthly installment, I have included a cheque with the letter for 36 which clears any fees incurred for visiting my home, I have also put at the bottom of the letter that by enclosing this payment it concludes my business relationship with bristow & sutor and any future communication between both parties should cease otherwise any continued harrassment with be passed to my solicitor.

    Does this sound about right?


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    brill
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    well done.
    there is an interesting point in another like threads about bailiffs.
    it appears the some councils cannot recall the debts placed with bailiffs.
    i'm not sure on this , doesn't sound right to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolee2931 View Post
    I have now refused to pay them and have said I will only deal with the council, my question is can they force entry now this new bill has been passed through government, or has the industry got to become fully regulated before it comes into force?
    Fantastic - another one who refuses to be ripped-off !

    Please see thread - Time for a bailiff boycott.


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    Good news!

    Had a letter today from Bristow & Sutor stating that if they cannot collect a payment within the next 7 days they will return the liability orders back to the council who then make an application for my committal to prison.

    I contacted the local council who said we won't commit me to prison as long as I make an arrangement to pay which we have now done, goodbye horrible Bristow & Sutor. Thanks guys for all your help and advice, I just hope others follow the same plan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolee2931 View Post
    Good news!

    Had a letter today from Bristow & Sutor stating that if they cannot collect a payment within the next 7 days they will return the liability orders back to the council who then make an application for my committal to prison.

    I contacted the local council who said we won't commit me to prison as long as I make an arrangement to pay which we have now done, goodbye horrible Bristow & Sutor. Thanks guys for all your help and advice, I just hope others follow the same plan.
    Yet another who refuses to be ripped-off !

    If you REFUSE to deal with bailiffs - then the Council WILL come to an agreement !



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