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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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Sent of a CCA letter on the 12th of this month and have been getting this message ever since on the Mail website.

 

 

Your item has reached the delivery office and is out for delivery.

 

We can confirm that your item left the delivery office this morning and should arrive shortly if it hasn’t been delivered already.

 

 

I have tried phoning to get an answer but keep being driven round in circles by the automated telephone system.

 

I just cannot get to speak to a real person.

 

How long should it take for this to be delivered and anyone have any tips on how to get past the phone system and get an answer from a real person.

Of course I will pay you everything you say I owe with no proof.

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If you sent by next day special delaivery then its exactly what it says on the tin, if you sent by first class signed for then you must allow 2 working days.

To quote Public Enemy.........

"Fight the power, fight the powers that be" :D

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Thanks, today is the 8th working day after posting which is why I am anxious to find out what has happened to my letter.

Of course I will pay you everything you say I owe with no proof.

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some advice I got re automatic phone systems is to ignore the prompts and press nothing. The system should hopefully assume you do not have a touch tone phone and redirect you through to a real person. Has worked for me for a few call centres eg tax credits, powergen,virgin. Might be worth a go?

ali x

Btw I am no expert just give notes based on what I have read on here and other forums/sites, plus my own experiences and investigations.

 

All ccj's now dropped off file, 2 yrs to go to clear file.

All old debts either settled or made unenforcable.

 

RBS MPP-Full offer at 8 wks from first complaint

RBS Overdraft loanguard-full offer at 8 wks from complaint

Citicard ppi-with FOS finally paid 8 months after offer through FOS!

Capital one x2- with FOS

Monument ppi-with FOS

aqua x2 ppi-partialled settled still pushing for the rest

Black horse ppi-offers made and accepted except for one early loan they say no info held-still pushing for payment

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Just had a thought did you keep the cheque/postal order number, if this was cashed surely the letter is delivered?

ali x

Btw I am no expert just give notes based on what I have read on here and other forums/sites, plus my own experiences and investigations.

 

All ccj's now dropped off file, 2 yrs to go to clear file.

All old debts either settled or made unenforcable.

 

RBS MPP-Full offer at 8 wks from first complaint

RBS Overdraft loanguard-full offer at 8 wks from complaint

Citicard ppi-with FOS finally paid 8 months after offer through FOS!

Capital one x2- with FOS

Monument ppi-with FOS

aqua x2 ppi-partialled settled still pushing for the rest

Black horse ppi-offers made and accepted except for one early loan they say no info held-still pushing for payment

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Just got a reply although it was dated some 10 days ago so dont really know what has happened here.

Royal Mail say the item is still out for delivery but obviously this is not the case and the cheque is not showing on bank statements as being cashed.

 

Confusing but at least they have it and the countdown will start from the date on the reply.

Of course I will pay you everything you say I owe with no proof.

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The once trusty Track and Trace seems to have problems. I have had a couple of problems in recent months and I have heard others say the same thing. I would complain about it. When I phoned Royal Mail they didn't recognise it as a problem. They need to be fully aware of it.

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If you sent by next day special delaivery then its exactly what it says on the tin, if you sent by first class signed for then you must allow 2 working days.

 

First class signed for (recorded), has a 15 day waiting period before it is condidered unaccounted for by Royal Mail.

 

Two working days for first class mail is just a target.

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Today is the 16th day after posting so the website should in theory reflect that.

The message from Royal Mail has been the same since the second day after posting.

 

I did complain via the automated system and got a reference number e-mailed to me together with a request for further details which have been duly sent off.

I have had no reply to that.

Of course I will pay you everything you say I owe with no proof.

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Two working days for first class mail is just a target.

 

Actually, the target is next day delivery (but this isn't guaranteed).

 

Today is the 16th day after posting so the website should in theory reflect that.

The message from Royal Mail has been the same since the second day after posting.

 

As you know the item has been delivered, there are two possible scenarios which may have happened here:

 

either - The item was delivered correctly, signature taken etc, but for some reason the tracking system wasn't updated (if you speak to Royal Mail they may have a signature for the item on the system as the signature system doesn't link to the delivery system as well as it should).

 

or - The item was delivered with other items of mail (possibly part of a large bulk deliver if it went to a big business) and the item got missed and the postman did not notice it was a Recorded Delivery item, so the item was delivered with no signature taken. If this is the case then you should claim a refund of the Recorded Delivery fee from Royal Mail (although as this is only 60-odd pence they will probably send you a book of stamps instead worth a few quid).

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The aim is to deliver next day but the target is 1-2 days for first class mail.

 

You are in fact entitled to claim up to £34 compensation for a failed Recorded Delivery item. This is the case too for even just a 34p first class letter.

 

Go to your post office with your receipt and fill in a claim form.

However, although the letter was important, the value of it is probably a book of stamps to Royal Mail.

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You are in fact entitled to claim up to £34 compensation for a failed Recorded Delivery item. This is the case too for even just a 34p first class letter.

 

Not quite. You can make a claim for a lost Recorded Delivery item, but the OP knows this item has been delivered, so no such claim can be made.

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brassed off, I sent it 1st Class recorded.

Perhaps given the time scales involved I should have shelled out the extra for special.

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After reading loads of threads, suggest you send special delivery - recorded is not always reliable.

 

It may take up to 5 days for you to get proof of delivery on Spec Del on Track and Trace (Royal Mail website), however, if you haven't had it after 5 days you can apply for it - have got the address somewhere will have to look this up tomorrow - too tired at mo.

 

I had a problem with POD on the website for Spec Del but was given an address to write to and finally received the Proof of Delivery by post.

 

Cheers!

 

BO (haven't got it honestly:D )

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Not quite. You can make a claim for a lost Recorded Delivery item, but the OP knows this item has been delivered, so no such claim can be made.

 

Not true.

 

The letter need not be lost to make a compensation claim as a late delivery is just as valid, hence why I used the term 'failed.'

 

A customer may send a wedding invitation via recorded delivery two weeks ahead of the date of the wedding but it gets delivered in three weeks.

 

The contents of the letter had no real monetary value so recorded first class would be appropriate yet the lateness of the delivery makes the letter's contents useless which equals a valid compensation claim.

 

As I previously stated this can be up to £34 for lost and/or late mail as it is Royal Mail's discretion to calculate the appropriate award ie up to 100 times the cost of a first class stamp = £34.

 

As far as I can read the OP hasn't had his letter delivered in any case.

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brassed off, I sent it 1st Class recorded.

Perhaps given the time scales involved I should have shelled out the extra for special.

 

Recorded is fine although seemingly not in your case this time. I have sent probably hundreds of recorded items in the past and have only once had a problem.

 

However, if you have now complained Royal Mail will investigate which basically includes them just asking the intended recipients if they are in receipt of the letter.

 

The DCA, if it is them you CCA'd, may just be acting awkward and say they never received it.

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Not true.

 

The letter need not be lost to make a compensation claim as a late delivery is just as valid, hence why I used the term 'failed.'

 

A customer may send a wedding invitation via recorded delivery two weeks ahead of the date of the wedding but it gets delivered in three weeks.

 

The contents of the letter had no real monetary value so recorded first class would be appropriate yet the lateness of the delivery makes the letter's contents useless which equals a valid compensation claim.

 

As I previously stated this can be up to £34 for lost and/or late mail as it is Royal Mail's discretion to calculate the appropriate award ie up to 100 times the cost of a first class stamp = £34.

 

Incorrect. The compensation is for loss or damage only. Delay is covered under a seperate scheme. From memory I think the maximum payout for delay is £5, and that's when it's the delay is over a certain amount of time - the full details can be found on the Royal Mail website.

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Incorrect. The compensation is for loss or damage only. Delay is covered under a seperate scheme. From memory I think the maximum payout for delay is £5, and that's when it's the delay is over a certain amount of time - the full details can be found on the Royal Mail website.

 

 

Not the case.

 

The differing compensation schemes are for bulk (business) mail & retail (including private) mail.

 

The bulk mail scheme need not be mentioned in this thread as it is irrelevant.

 

The OP needs to be aware of the retail mail compensation for his letter.

 

This compensation scheme deals with lost, damaged & delayed mail. This one scheme just has differing levels of compensation depending on what the claim is ie loss, damage and/or delay (which may become considered lost).

 

The maximum payout for delayed mail could be £34 as after 15 days, as I previously pointed out, the delayed letter is considered lost.

 

Also, my previous example of delayed mail of wedding invitations makes those invitations as good as lost anyway as the wedding would have taken place before the invitation was received.

 

The OP seems to indicate that his letter had still not been received on the 16th day, last Thursday, so his letter is now considered lost and he can make a claim for a maximum of £34.

 

Each claim is considered seperately so it is hard to determine what the OP will get although he is free to claim £34.

 

Royal Mail's website will explain that Recorded Signed For letter's attract a possible compensation limit of £34.

 

The above shows why.

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Wrong again I'm afraid. I am well aware of the bulk mail compensation scheme, which would not apply to Recorded Delivery and is paid as a percentage refund, not up to a fixed amount. The £34 maximum is for loss or damage only. Delay is seperate. Please see the Royal Mail website for further details.

 

Also the wedding invitation example would be classed as Consequential Losses, which Royal Mail are not liable for.

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4.7 Compensation for delay is currently split into two stages; delay which is measured as 4

+ days after the due date, and substantial delay which is measured as 10 + days after

due date. An item is classed as lost 15 + days after due date.

 

http://www.postwatch.co.uk/pdf/policydocs/23.2.07PW%20Response_Compensation.pdf

 

 

Recorded Signed For

 

If you have an important item to deliver, our Recorded Signed For™ service gives you complete peace of mind with proof of posting, signature on delivery and online tracking so you can follow the progress of your delivery.

  • Proof of posting
  • Signature on delivery
  • Online tracking
  • Up to £34 compensation
  • Prices from 70p plus normal postage

With Recorded Signed For™, you get next day delivery with most First Class items. And if you’re an account customer, we’ll pick up your items from your business.

 

 

The OP has sent a letter by Recorded Delivery and it appears the letter has still not been received after 16 days.

 

This situation is no longer a delay but is considered lost (15+ days) and therefore he is entitled to claim compensation of up to £34 for a lost (delayed 15 days+) letter.

 

Loss, damage AND DELAY (which can clearly become lost mail) come under The Retail Compensation Scheme which is regulated by Postcomm-Royal Mail simply have to observe it.

 

My example of wedding invitations being delivered in three weeks, one week after the event, mentions nothing of monetary loss but is simply meant to show what was intended-a three week delivery period which would entitle the sender to claim for compensation which would be considered lost mail (as it was 15+ days).

This has nothing to do with consequential loss.

 

 

Why do you find this difficult to comprehend?

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For Information (taken from the Royal Mail website)

 

First Class Mail:

Has your mail item arrived five or more working days after it was posted? If so, your mail is classified as ‘delayed’, and we’ll give you compensation of 12 First Class stamps. If you provide additional evidence of delay and your claim for compensation is accepted, you will be sent a cheque for £5, or for £10 if your item has suffered substantial delay (i.e. was delivered more than eleven working days after the day of posting') and you provide additional evidence or proof of delay.

 

If your mail gets lost, we’ll give you a minimum compensation of 12 First Class stamps. However, if there was something of value in your mail, we'll refund the actual loss, up to a maximum of £34 or up to the market value, whichever is the smaller amount. Please apply for this within 12 months.

 

First Class Recorded/Signed For:

Has your mail item arrived five or more working days after it was posted?

If so, your mail is classified as ‘delayed’, and we’ll give you compensation of 12 First Class stamps. If you provide additional evidence of delay and your claim for compensation is accepted, you will be sent a cheque for £5, or for £10 if your item has suffered substantial delay (i.e. was delivered more than eleven working days after the day of posting and you provide additional evidence or proof of delay.

 

If your mail gets lost, we’ll give you a minimum compensation of 12 First Class stamps. However, if there was something of value in your mail, we'll refund the actual loss, up to a maximum of £32 or up to the market value, whichever is the smaller amount. Please apply for this within 12 months.

 

Please note that we do not pay compensation without an original certificate of posting being produced.

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For Information (taken from the Royal Mail website)

 

 

Hi and thanks for that.

 

Although the Postcomm/Postwatch website are more informative as it is they who actually regulate and set the compensation tariff (with agreement with Government), Royal Mail just obey it.

 

The OP just needs to pop into his local PO who will confirm his letter is 'lost' and has gone beyond 'delay' which entitles him to claim up to £34.

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