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Old 17th July 2008, 12:08   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all!

I let my property last September and the end date of the contract is the 24th September 2008. It is a standard contract.

Would I have to give the tenants notice on the 24th August or does the contract end naturally?

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Section 21 giving 2 MONTHS clear notice. So you need to get it to them by next wednesday at the latest (Assuminging you didnt serve one at the beginning of the AST).

Remember the only way you can get a tenant out is with a court order. If your looking to move back in yourself, keep this in mind and have "what if" arangements in place for the 24th September onwards in case they dont leave.
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thank you.

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oh one more thing...I am overseas.
will email count. or do you recommend recorded delivery.
i have an uneasy relationship with the tenants...basically they are keeping cats, lying about it and the cats have already ripped a brand new leather sofa in the property.
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How notices should be served is normally written into the tenanncy agreement. If it isnt then I would recomend recorded delivery for your piece of mind.

By the way, did you register the deposit in one the tennacy deposit protection schemes? this is very very important in relation to the section 21 notice.

By the way, all this makes the assumption the property is in Englabnd/Wales and not Scotland
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You must have an address within england and wales that you can be sent post to, otherwise the eviction (if it goes that far) will fail.
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Yes, I do have a UK postal address.

Yes the deposit is held TDS.

I have found another page of the agreement signed by the tenant. The title of the top reads "I require possession of the dwelling on or after 24th September"

Does this mean I can serve a one month notice instead of two?

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No. 2 months notice ALWAYS. What you MAY have there is a "Sword of Damocles" Section 21 agreement. However, you will need to post the FULL text of that document to inform you whether or not it is a valid notice, allowing you to begin eviction proceedings at the end of the contract.
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OK; will scan and send

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Oh dear...the tenant has confirmed it is my 1000 bed that she has thrown away the mattress to. She offered to get another mattress and I said that was fine but that I would like an input into it because it was a special one for my bad back.

She then replied...You know what forget it I am just going to move when the contract is up on the 24th of September I cannot deal with your e-mails and you as a person in general and your mattress did smell really bad from some sort of musty smell our kids do not lie. Myself and Colm smelt it as did my friend. Its not worth it to ask you for anything I'd rather just move out. Please do not e-mail me again go through the agency from now on.

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So, no need for notice!!!
However...I havent got a receipt for my bed*am trying to get another from the store. Do I buy a another one and deduct from deposit?

Also, I have been overseas and have made NO inspection visits and not bothered the tenants at all!!!
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- How old was the bed?
- Was it(and its condition) listed on an inventory, signed by the tenants at the commencement of the tenancy?
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was on inventory and signed by tenants.
nothing on inventory about condition. certainly no smell mentioned!
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How old was the bed?
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about 8 years old I believe.
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IMO then you can reclaim perhaps £150-200, and that might be a bit generous.
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