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Old 13th December 2007, 11:42   #1 (permalink)
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Default Tenancy Agreement - missed a condition!

Hi, my local council recently posted a nice easy to read updated version of our tenancy agreement.

Since it was easy to read, I read it.

Oops, what was that in Section 6...only one pet, either a cat or a dog.

I have to write to them to get permission for more.

Can you suggest how I write to them and tell them I have 2 cats, 2 dogs and about 100 fish in 4 fish tanks without them demanding that animals are removed?
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Let sleeping dogs lie!
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LOL, but what if they find out?
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Then they would severely struggle to do anything about it.
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Then they would severely struggle to do anything about it.
WOW Really...that's good news...but how come?
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Yeah, it's not likley that they will find out is it? Anyway how would you choose who to get rid of?
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I think I would just buy the house, I plan to do that in the future anyway...
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Because it is a very minor infringement of the tenancy, and depending upon its wording, it may be classed as an unfair term by the OFT and therefore null and void anyway.
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Read this thread: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...-eviction.html

You will see from it that if you breach the terms of the tenancy agreement the landlord can evict you under the Housing Act 1988.

If you are a shorthold tenant, the landlord can also evict you for no reason, by simply giving you two months notice under the Act.

It would therefore be prudent not to draw your breach of the tenancy to the landlord's attention!


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Because it is a very minor infringement of the tenancy, and depending upon its wording, it may be classed as an unfair term by the OFT and therefore null and void anyway.
The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 are summarised at this link: Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations - BERR

The regulations provide that a term which has not been individually negotiated in a consumer contract is unfair (and hence not binding on the consumer) if it causes a significant imbalance in the rights and obligations of the parties, to the detriment of the consumer.

It may be difficult in a private shorthold letting to prove that the contract was a consumer contract. At the very least, the tenant must show that the landlord is in business. If the landlord is only letting out a single property, for instance, this would not be so.

Even if the landlord is in business, if he has negotiated the letting contract with the tenant, the tenant has no case, because the regulations only apply where the terms were not individually negotiated (the "printed form" test.)

Thirdly, the tenant might not be able to show that the term in question causes a "significant imbalance" between his rights and those of the landlord, especially where the landlord owns only 2 or 3 properties.

This is because, unlike a bank (which has a monopoly of banking business, or which forms a cartel with a tiny handful of other banks to do so), a small private landlord does not monopolise - or nearly monopolise - the market. The tenant can rent from Joe Bloggs down the street instead. So it is hard to see *any* comparison between a small private landlord and a giant monopolistic corporation like a bank.

Under the 1999 Regulations, the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) has an obligation to consider any complaint made to it about the fairness of any contract term.

Only the OFT and certain other named bodies are empowered to enforce the regulations. Therefore a tenant cannot just sue a landlord on a whim, if he fancies that the regulations have been breached! He must persuade the OFT to sue on his behalf, which no tenant has succeeded in persuading it to do.


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