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21st January 2008, 08:48
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| | Platinum Account Customer | Re: Penalty Charges on Trains Lol. Dude, the unit triangulates its position on the global via signals received. The rest is simply a bit of nifty database querying. |
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21st January 2008, 15:01
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Originally Posted by ammani Hello all. Back in september, on my youngest daughter's 2nd day at a new school, (she is 11) she had to get the train at the last minute, to get home, due to my car breaking down. She had never been on a train before and didnt know the area she was in, and was anxious because it was getting dark. On finding the station, she asked a fellow passenger if they knew when her next train would be due, and was told it was the one just going to leave. There was a long queue for tickets and she was worried about missing the train, but she was told she could get a ticket from the conductor on the train, so she got on. Unfortunately on this trip, there was no conducter, even though there was always one on my trip up to London.When she arrived at her destination, she was stopped by the railwayman working at the station, and she tried to explain the situation, and offered him the money for her ticket, but he refused to take it saying she had to pay a £20.00 penalty fee, and put her through the ordeal of filling out a form. She was so distressed and crying when she came home, saying the man wouldnt even let her explain. I think it was an awful way to treat a child, and ok i understand they have to penalise fare dodgers, but could he not have taken into account the circumstances of the situation? | Horrible 'jobsworth' Ammani ... sadly, rail travel is not what it used to be  |
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21st January 2008, 21:44
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| | Platinum Account Customer | Re: Penalty Charges on Trains Quote:
Originally Posted by Pen I heard a barrister talking on the radio the other day who said that no one has to pay a penalty for not having a Train Ticket if a person was unable to buy one ie because there is a queue at the station or the station office was closed. the rail companies have never taken any one to court for fare dodging most people are honest it is only the minority otherwise why wasn't mrs C Blair charged. | Precisely what I was refering to in my post #13 at the beginning of this thread!! I'll bet the barrister you listened to was the Richard Colbey of the article ... 
I think if you read what was said, MTM and Castlebest were explaining that these are Penalty Fares as opposed to Penalty Charges and supposedly enforceable by rail byelaw. HOWEVER, I'm with the Barrister on the very specific point he makes ... |
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22nd January 2008, 19:33
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| | Platinum Account Customer | Re: Penalty Charges on Trains So am I he made quite a lot of sense. I think the Barrister was quoting Martin Lewis.
Here's the article, for anyone in doubt Ticket to ride roughshod over passengers First it was the banks. Now train companies are boosting profits by charging huge penalties. Miles Brignall reports Saturday April 22, 2006 The Guardian
Train companies are bullying passengers into paying expensive penalty fares for being on the wrong train - even though in many cases the mistake is down to their own staff.
Last week the train companies were criticised by passenger groups for having impossibly complicated fare structures. It now appears they are hiding behind these tariffs to impose severe penalty fares on anyone taking the wrong train, in some cases amounting to £100 or more.
So no difference to the banks then!!!
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23rd January 2008, 21:18
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| | Platinum Account Customer | Re: Penalty Charges on Trains Ah yes, THAT link to the truth of the matter works MUCH better lol Quote:
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24th January 2008, 11:53
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| | Classic Account Customer | Re: Penalty Charges on Trains Quote:
Originally Posted by newfoundglory Penalty fares are meant to discourage and prevent fare evasion .... | Then why is it that it is more likely to be suits and women that get done?
The answer is that most RPI's now work on their own (a "commercial" decision by the railway co). So if you are a scroat who threatens violence, the advice is just to get them to write their name and address on your pad (whether false or not) so other customers see you doing something then move onto an easier target. The railway co do not want staff to "put themselves at risk". |
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25th January 2008, 00:01
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