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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Hi there.

 

I'm new to all this and have only done a search having received a parking ticket from Premier Parking solutions in Exeter on Friday. I would be greateful of any advice on what the legality is surrounding the issuance of such a fine.

 

Basically, I was looking for a car park in Exeter and followed the standard blue "P" signs and arrived at the Victoria Yard car park. There was a single space on rough concrete directly opposite the entrance with a chain link fence. I parked the car and noticed a sign behind the car reporting the T&C for the car park. The initial bit referred to parking in a "marked bay where applicable" and the rest was general stuff. As there were no markings and the car was inbetween others and not causing any obstruction I bought a ticket and displayed it in the car.

 

On returing to the car (within the time period) I found a 'ticket' had been applied 30 minutes previously. There was also another car in a similar situation, a clamped car and a woman waiting for a space saying she had been caught there the previous week. The ticket indicates that the reason for the ticket was "No Network Rail permit. Not parked within yellow marked bays". There was an official looking guy talking to someone and whilst he did not work for PPS he did fill me in with some detilas. Apparently the car park is split into 3 parts. Network Rail have some spaces, a solicitors firms have some and some are for public parking. He mentioned that I should have parked in the yellow bays (which he then pointed out) and also mentioned the signs saying "park in the yellow bays" which are, ironically, only in front of the yellow bays!! You had to kind of look over and between the cars to see this!

 

There was no indication, that I could see, that the car park was split like this nor was there any indication where I parked that this was a Network Rail space as clearly I would not have parked there!

 

Although I'm sure this is irelevent, I did also notice (and took pictures of) that there was some yellow paint on the ground next to my car from some old space markings.

 

Any help and advice would be much appreciated. The fine was £100 reduced to £75 if paid in 7 days. They only provide a PO box number for correspondence and no telephone number.

 

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Jez

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Well it isn't a fine, it's a Parking Charge Notice not a Penalty Charge Notice, right? And have a look at any reference to 'appealing' - check that it tells you to appeal to the Parking Company and/or a PO Box - nothing about Magistrates Court I assume?

 

If there's nowt on a railway ticket about Rail Bylaws and Magistrates Court then it's not legit - so forget about the '£75 if paid in 7 days' rubbish 'offer'! You won't be paying it, they have no authority to fine anyone. And re 'appealing', don't even think about it, the answer will be no and you will have shown them that you think they have some authority and you would be giving them info they do not have!

 

Of course just ignore it and the standard debt collector letters which follow; we have all been there done that, ignored a PPC or six! Do not appeal, do not ring, do not write - IMHO do not even think about sending any template letter. Don't waste another SECOND thinking about it! Think of it as a phishing email which you'd just snort with laughter at and delete...this is the same sort of thing.

 

Just file ALL their letters, even those with scary bold lettering, debt collector headings and threat of litigation. It is all hot air.

 

Read as many other current forum threads on CAG, MSE and pepipoo.com, posted by people in your shoes, until you feel confident about it and until you have seen the word 'ignore' soooo many times that it makes your eyes glaze over. See the 3 links below for the main 3 relevant forum boards, current threads like yours with sticky advice at the top (just don't bother with template letters IMHO). Make sure you check out the copies of debt collector letters and the link to Watchdog on this matter:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?88-Parking-Traffic-Offences

 

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...play.php?f=163

 

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

 

Nothing will happen, no Court, no CCJ, no bailiff, nowt. There's no effect on credit rating by deleting a phishing email nor from ignoring a PPC. Spread the word and tell anyone who thinks this is a real fine to read up on it.

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Hi,

 

I parked in Exeter on Saturday 16th July, at the Victoria Yard car park, and had an experience almost identical to that of Jeremy Evans, back in February. I paid and displayed and when I returned (within the time period,) I found a £100 parking fine had been taped to my windscreen. I think I must have parked in the exact same spot from what Jez says, and can confirm that such notices that were on display were ambiguous and there was nothing obvious to indicate that I'd parked in a reserved space, (such as a sign saying Reserved Space for example!) The penalty of £100 (pay up within 7 days and they'll reduce it to £75,) seems exorbitant, and well above what a council would normally charge.

 

I've read the helpful advice of Coupon, but I was just wondering whether Jez, or anyone else in a similar situation, has had any problems with PPS since February, or whether they really do give up with their claims after a period of time.

 

Thanks

Mike

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Hi guys, sorry to revive an old thread, but I have just received a ticket from PPS in an Exeter car park. Just wondering if it carried on by you ignoring it? £100 (£75) is a ridiculous charge, and completely unreasonable for the offence. But yeah, just wondering if anything more drastic would happen if I ignore it?

 

Thanks in advance!

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The only thing "drastic" that would happen is that your paper recycle bin will fill up a bit faster when you start receiving all that junk mail from the PPC. Just ignore. I imagine that's what the original poster did and that the PPC gave up when they found that the motorist wasn't going to give in to all those empty "threats".

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Hi.

I got really worried back in November when I was given one of these tickets and couldn't believe the charge, I was mortified.

Anyway, I was sent lots of letters firstly telling me that the charge had increased and then threatening further proceedings etc..... then we had a letter saying they would reduce the now £130's charge to £80 if I paid within the week

Well because of this thread I did ignore and did not respond in any way (not even to explain that the driver of the car was not the registered keeper etc, as I was previously going to do ) and we have now not heard anything for a couple of months.

We are fairly confident that this will be the end of it, but I am very grateful for the folks on here who told me not to do anything and just ignore. ignore, ignore. I think that it was the right thing to do and feel fairly sure that no more will come of this.

Thanks very much to everyone.

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Received a letter from Premier Parking Solutions saying I'd been given a ticket in Plymouth. No ticket on car from anywhere I'd been, plus still not sure of the location they said this was. Wanted payment of £100 plus because I hadn't paid within time, so phoned, told by CCS to contact and appeal to PPS. Put in an appeal by email. Received confirmation and told it would take two weeks. Nearly four now so phoned. Told I should have appealed to CCS and they shouldn't have told me to appeal to PPS. (Bet they're the same company). Sounds like the run around but wife is getting stressed. I'm also disabled with blue badge.

Advice please.

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I have just had fine with 2 pics of my car its at bridge retail park, riviera way, torquay its at just after 10 at night saying i owe £60 the barrier was up also you cannot read signs in the dark i have taken photos myself etc. What shall i do and has anybody else had one

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Hi all

New on here but thought I'd post as would like some advice/ feedback.

I received a parking ticket today from these guys pps. Reason being not parking within allocated bay markings , and to be totally honest my front wheel was encroaching on the adjacent bay . But this was a knock on effect from the car situated next to the bay I parked in.

Should I ignore / pay ???

Help cheers jimbo

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Just looked on pps website and seen some unnerving comments on court cases won, are these genuine ?

I'm prepared to ignore the fools but in the back of my mind just think is it easier just to cough up and forget about it .

 

 

If you read the text it would seem that these cases were won by them! When people have sued them for the return of clamping fees, a whole different ball game then an invoice on a screen. Done correctly clamping is legal! ( well until the first of October 2012)

 

"Court Judges sitting at both the Exeter and the Torquay and Newton Abbot County Courts ruled in PPS's favour dismissing the spurious and ultimately unsubstantiated claims made against them"

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Earlier this year I parked in the car park off Southerhay in Exeter & my ticket must have got caught by the wind & got stuck at the front of the dashboard - still visible though if you looked properly. I returned to the car to a £100 parking charge which I appealed against & sent a photocopy of the ticket & a photo of it on the dashboard. I received a letter back stating 'you were not displaying a valid pay & display ticket & I therefore uphold our operative's decision to issue this parking charge notice.' I took the advice given on this forum & ignored all further correspondence from them. So far I've had a further 4 letters - first offering to reduce the fine to £75 if I paid by a certain date, then putting it up to £130 & then threatening me with a visit from a debt collector & saying that they'll take me to court. I've continued to ignore them & haven't heard from them for a couple of months now. Hopefully that's the end of it but I will continue to ignore them if I hear from them again however threatening they get!

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