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    • Thank-you dx for your feedback. That is the reason I posted my opinion, because I am trying to learn more and this is one of the ways to learn, by posting my opinions and if I am incorrect then being advised of the reasons I am incorrect. I am not sure if you have educated me on the points in my post that would be incorrect. However, you are correct on one point, I shall refrain from posting on any other thread other than my own going forward and if you think my post here is unhelpful, misleading or in any other way inappropriate, then please do feel obliged to delete it but educate me on the reason why. To help my learning process, it would be helpful to know what I got wrong other than it goes against established advice considering the outcome of a recent court case on this topic that seemed to suggest it was dismissed due to an appeal not being made at the first stage. Thank-you.   EDIT:  Just to be clear, I am not intending to go against established advice by suggesting that appeals should ALWAYS be made, just my thoughts on the particular case of paying for parking and entering an incorrect VRN. Should this ever happen to me, I will make an appeal at the first stage to avoid any problems that may occur at a later stage. Although, any individual in a similar position should decide for themselves what they think is an appropriate course of action. Also, I continue to be grateful for any advice you give on my own particular case.  
    • you can have your humble opinion.... You are very new to all this private parking speculative invoice game you have very quickly taken it upon yourself to be all over this forum, now to the extent of moving away from your initial thread with your own issue that you knew little about handling to littering the forum and posting on numerous established and existing threads, where advice has already been given or a conclusion has already resulted, with your theories conclusions and observations which of course are very welcomed. BUT... in some instances, like this one...you dont quite match the advice that the forum and it's members have gathered over a very long consensual period given in a tried and trusted consistent mannered thoughtful approach. one could even call it forum hi-jacking and that is becoming somewhat worrying . dx
    • Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant .... I said DCBL because I was reading a few threads about them discontinuing claims and getting spanked in court! Meant  YOU  Highview !!!  🖕 The more I read this forum and the more I engage with it's incredible users, the more I learn and the more my knowledge expands. If my case gets to court, the Judge will dismiss it after I utter my first sentence, and you DCBL and Highview don't even know why .... OMG! .... So excited to get to court!
    • Yep, I read that and thought about trying to find out what the consideration and grace period is at Riverside but not sure I can. I know they say "You must tell us the specific consideration/grace period at a site if our compliance team or our agents ask what it is"  but I doubt they would disclose it to the public, maybe I should have asked in my CPR 31.14 letter? Yes, I think I can get rid of 5 minutes. I am also going to include a point about BPA CoP: 13.2 The reference to a consideration period in 13.1 shall not apply where a parking event takes place. I think that is Deception .... They giveth with one hand and taketh away with the other! One other point to note, the more I read, the more I study, the more proficient I feel I am becoming in this area. Make no mistake DBCL if you are reading this, when I win in court, if I have the grounds to make any claims against you, such as breach of GDPR, I shall be doing so.
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Copyright © 2009 Baby Supplies Ltd

 

 

Comoany Registration:

 

Name & Registered Office:

BABY SUPPLIES LIMITED

19 CAMBRIAN WAY

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Accounting Reference Date: 31/12

Last Accounts Made Up To: 05/01/2008 (TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL)

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I might have guessed it was them.

 

You don't give a monkeys it's their 'policy'. It is your money. And you want it back.

 

Under the Distance Selling Regulations the supplier has not complied with the law and you are due the monry back, and Halifax's 'policy' is immaterial.

 

Which of their cards did you use, debit/credit - Visa/Mastercard/Maestro?

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Excellent! Call your bank, advise you are requesting a cashback under Visa's customer guarantee scheme. Don;t listen to their guff - say if you do not get the refund within 7 days to your account, you'll raise a formal complaint with Visa International of their refusal to comply with a legitimate refund request.

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well Halifax were having none of it! just kept saying there was nothing they can do and they can't comment on it!!!! they are an absoloute waste of space, they were told that aswell!!! never spoken to someone so rude!! thanks for your help though.

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Don't let them get away with it. Ask to speak to someone more senior until you get someone who actually knows what they are talking about. They have a long history of this, and then they deny have heard of the Visa guarantee.

 

Refer them to this:

 

http://www.visa.co.uk/security/main.html

 

Also contact Visa directly; [email protected]

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for 16 mninutes and 43 seconds i listened to a very rude bloke tell me, how no one in the call centre can help, its not there fault or problem but he understands!!! i was going to ask, how do i make the complaint to visa, thanks for all the info you've given me, your help has been much appreciated

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The same has just happened to me with Bedswarehouse.co.uk. I paid £179 for a bed and was told it was out of stock,but only when they had taken the money from my account. After four weeks I requested a refund. They told me it would take up to 14 days for the refund to show up in my account. Two months later and still no refund and my bank told me that no attempts had been made by them to credit my account. Fraud investigators are now on the case. My bank (Alliance & Leicester) told me you are protected if you pay online by Visa, so keep pushing it.

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