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    • Thank you for that "read me", It's a lot to digest, lots of legal procedure. There was one thing that I was going to mention to you,  but in one of the conversations in that thread it was mentioned that there may be spies on the Forum,  this is something that I've read quite some time ago in a previous thread. What I had in mind was to wait for the thirty days after their reply to my CCA request and then send the unenforceable letter. I was hoping that an absence of signature could be the Silver Bullet but it seems that there are lot of layers to peel on this Onion.  
    • love the extra £1000 charge for confidentialy there BF   Also OP even if they don't offer OOC it doesn't mean your claim isn't good. I had 3 against EVRi that were heard over the last 3 weeks. They sent me emails asking me to discontinue as I wouldn't win. Went infront of a judge and won all 3.    Just remember the law is on your side. The judges will be aware of this.   Where you can its important to try to point out at the hearing the specific part of the contract they breached. I found this was very helpful and the Judge made reference to it when they gave their judgements and it seemed this was pretty important as once you have identified a specific breach the matter turns straight to liability. From there its a case of pointing out the unlawfullness of their insurance and then that should be it.
    • I know dx and thanks again for yours and others help. I was 99.999% certain last payment was over six years ago if not longer.  👍
    • Paragraph 23 – "standard industry practice" – put this in bold type. They are stupid to rely on this and we might as well carry on emphasising how stupid they are. I wonder why they could even have begun to think some kind of compelling argument – "the other boys do it so I do it as well…" Same with paragraph 26   Paragraph 45 – The Defendants have so far been unable to produce any judgements at any level which disagree with the three judgements…  …court, but I would respectfully request…   Just the few amendments above – and I think it's fine. I think you should stick to the format that you are using. This has been used lots of times and has even been applauded by judges for being meticulous and clear. You aren't a professional. Nobody is expecting professional standards and although it's important that you understand exactly what you are doing – you don't really want to come over to the judge that you have done this kind of thing before. As a litigant in person you get a certain licence/leeway from judges and that is helpful to you – especially if you are facing a professional advocate. The way this is laid out is far clearer than the mess that you will get from EVRi. Quite frankly they undermine their own credibility by trying to say that they should win simply because it is "standard industry practice". It wouldn't at all surprise me if EVRi make you a last moment offer of the entire value of your claim partly to avoid judgement and also partly to avoid the embarrassment of having this kind of rubbish exposed in court. If they do happen to do that, then you should make sure that they pay everything. If they suddenly make you an out-of-court offer and this means that they are worried that they are going to lose and so you must make sure that you get every penny – interest, costs – everything you claimed. Finally, if they do make you an out-of-court offer they will try to sign you up to a confidentiality agreement. The answer to that is absolutely – No. It's not part of the claim and if they want to settle then they settle the claim as it stands and don't try add anything on. If they want confidentiality then that will cost an extra £1000. If they don't like it then they can go do the other thing. Once you have made the amendments suggested above – it should be the final version. court,. I don't think we are going to make any more changes. Your next job good to make sure that you are completely familiar with it all. That you understand the arguments. Have you made a court familiarisation visit?
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Received my first parking charge notice today .. its from G24, was about to pay it when i decided to research into it a bit more and found that many people do not pay fines from these types of companies.

 

The notice states that i went over the free parking of 150 minutes, my parking period was 207 minutes.. they have cctv pictures of my car entering and leaving the retail car park (with the time and date). Also i am sure there is a sign entering the car park about the terms and conditions etc.

 

So my question is should i pay or not? its £36.00 if i pay within 14 days or it goes up to £60.00 after 14 days.

 

Many Thanks in advance :)

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its is not a fine

 

its a speculative invoice

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hmm, i have read through some other posts on here and all of them say ignore, like both of you (many thanks for the responses) :) Has anyone done this and been successful? How long did it take for them to stop? I am just worried that if i ignore, it will get worse as i suppose i was in the wrong in staying over the maximum free parking.

 

To my understanding, if the 'invoice' is issued by a private company they have no leg to stand on, they can pursue as much as they want to and they cannot do anything, then they will pass it over to the debt recovery company, which they cant do anything without it going to court (is there a chance that ill receive an appearance from the bailiffs?). I know it is very unlikely that it will go to court, if it does what would happen? would i have to fork out for the court fee and also the increasing fine?

 

Im sorry if i sound like a ninny, but this is my first ticket and i feel so lost in what to do as they have cctv pictures of my car entering and leaving the car park.

 

Many Thanks again :p

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it is NOT A FINE

 

nowhere does ANY of the paperwork use that word.

 

I understand your concerns

 

but you really need to read up more

 

stay firm and ignore them.

 

lots of scary red letters from various fleecers to come

 

all saying we MAY. might,instructed. could. minded

 

they never ever say WILL.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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did you sign a contract with tis compamy when you parked your car? No you didnt. It is am implied contract and has little strength to it for several reasons. You could ask the company for a copy of the contract you signed as only a contract where each party has equal rights of negotiation is enforceable. Also, the land most likely belongs to someone else so the parking company will have to show an interest in the land and prove a loss that is a consequence of your trespass or breach of the contract. As it is a free car park owned by someone else they ill fail to prove either so any action by them gainst you is doomed to fail if defended and may be vexatious

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where did you get that load of BS from!!!

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you say demand with menaces. that is a very strong accusation. When did you last hear from G24 because by now (if contemporaneous with original posting) they have little chance of recovering any money from you as the keeper of the vehicle and so unless they have been demanding monies recently I would leave things alone. If they have been asking you to cough up then tell us what the letters say exactly and we will tell you the best way to respond. You seem to have not considered the different forms of contract and parking companies rely mostly on an interpretation of unilateral contract law that has never been tested in a higher court.

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Question? Am unclear how threads work (bit of a techy thicky so sorry if this isn't the right way)...Got a PCN from G24 who took pics of car blah blah - looked at Forum and saw a response about sending a letter stating they have no legal standing and not to acknowlege being registered keeper etc - used the letter advised and got a long winded letter in response which I didn;t understand, but basically poo pooing POPLA? ,,,,anyway since then three debt recovery letters threatening which igrnored - now have one with notice of intended court action unless I pay up immediately.....am I standing firm and ignoring?

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Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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