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    • Doc 04-19-2024 11-01-51-merged-compressed.pdf good morning.    9 pages attached.    thank you  UCM
    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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    • Your topic title was altered last June 23 by the owner of this forum in the interests of the forum Anyway well done on your result and thank you for concluding your topic, title updated.   Andy   .
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I don't mean to worry anyone unneccessarily but, I've just discovered that thetrainline.com is taking part in what's been a common on-line "[problem]" recently. A few similar scams have been reported in the national press, where you unwittingly click on a link on the page and "accidentally" sign up to a subscription shopping service with an offer of a cash back amount, whereby you pay a monthly sum by Direct Debit (anywhere between £5 -£20 typically), and in return receive e-mails telling you about special offers. Useful, but not something you'd pay £20 for the privelidge of having, huh?

 

Typical examples are highstreetmax.com, who did me in similar circumstances after booking a holiday with lastminute.com last year. It took me six months to detect the £14.95 D/D and where it was going to and cancel it. I'm still waiting on the £90 back!

 

Below is the text from my booking for a train journey. There are essentially two buttons to press after you have confirmed payment for the ticket. One is the "view printable version". The other one is marked as "continue". The continue one is the link that automatically starts the direct debit from your bank account (trainline.com will pass on the bank details you've just supplied when booking the train ticket). Legally they're doing nothing wrong as you are "accepting" the terms and conditions. It's sneaky I know, but NOT illegal, believe it or not.

 

This is the form you see on screen after booking:

 

Thetrainline.com

.......................................................................................................................... view printable version

 

 

Your transaction has been successful.

Journey 1: London Euston to Birkenhead Central 21/02/2009 Depart 11:07

 

Collection Reference Number XXXXXXXX. You need this number to collect your tickets from the Self-service Ticket machine.

Journey 2: Birkenhead Central to London Euston 21/02/2009 Depart 19:19

 

Collection Reference Number XXXXXXXX. You need this number to collect your tickets from the Self-service Ticket machine.

Total Ticket Price: GBP 22.00

Booking Fee: GBP 1.00

 

Total Price: GBP 23.00

 

 

Your booking is complete

Click here to claim your £10 cash back

incentive on your next thetrainline.com booking!

CONTINUE

By clicking above, you can claim your reward

from our preferred partner. Terms & conditions apply

 

 

 

I would suggest anyone who recently booked rain tickets via trainline.com checks their recent bank statements to make sure there are no strange looking payments. I'm sure other similar scams, vistaprint, etc, have been reported on here, but it's the first time I've heard of thetrainline.com doing anyhting like this.

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Did your read those quoted 'Terms & conditions'? this could be the difference between a [problem] and clever marketing.

 

No, my point is that the ad is designed to look like it's part of the web-site, therefore you click "continue" thinking it's going to send you to the final confirmation page, not realising you are signing up for this [problem]. I've heard it referred to as a "click-through [problem]" in other places.

 

It may have been easier to show if I'd loaded up via photo-bucket so you can see what I mean.

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I don't mean to worry anyone unneccessarily but, I've just discovered that thetrainline.com is taking part in what's been a common on-line "[problem]" recently. A few similar scams have been reported in the national press, where you unwittingly click on a link on the page and "accidentally" sign up to a subscription shopping service with an offer of a cash back amount, whereby you pay a monthly sum by Direct Debit (anywhere between £5 -£20 typically), and in return receive e-mails telling you about special offers. Useful, but not something you'd pay £20 for the privelidge of having, huh?

 

Typical examples are highstreetmax.com, who did me in similar circumstances after booking a holiday with lastminute.com last year. It took me six months to detect the £14.95 D/D and where it was going to and cancel it. I'm still waiting on the £90 back!

 

Below is the text from my booking for a train journey. There are essentially two buttons to press after you have confirmed payment for the ticket. One is the "view printable version". The other one is marked as "continue". The continue one is the link that automatically starts the direct debit from your bank account (trainline.com will pass on the bank details you've just supplied when booking the train ticket). Legally they're doing nothing wrong as you are "accepting" the terms and conditions. It's sneaky I know, but NOT illegal, believe it or not.

 

This is the form you see on screen after booking:

 

Thetrainline.com

.......................................................................................................................... view printable version

 

 

Your transaction has been successful.

Journey 1: London Euston to Birkenhead Central 21/02/2009 Depart 11:07

 

Collection Reference Number XXXXXXXX. You need this number to collect your tickets from the Self-service Ticket machine.

Journey 2: Birkenhead Central to London Euston 21/02/2009 Depart 19:19

 

Collection Reference Number XXXXXXXX. You need this number to collect your tickets from the Self-service Ticket machine.

Total Ticket Price: GBP 22.00

Booking Fee: GBP 1.00

 

Total Price: GBP 23.00

 

 

Your booking is complete

Click here to claim your £10 cash back

incentive on your next thetrainline.com booking!

CONTINUE

By clicking above, you can claim your reward

from our preferred partner. Terms & conditions apply

 

 

 

I would suggest anyone who recently booked rain tickets via trainline.com checks their recent bank statements to make sure there are no strange looking payments. I'm sure other similar scams, vistaprint, etc, have been reported on here, but it's the first time I've heard of thetrainline.com doing anyhting like this.

 

 

I think you only get this if you are going to Birkenhead Central:D

 

Lovely place................

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