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Old 26th July 2007, 01:32   #41 (permalink)
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I've not heard anything in over a month now since writing once informing them to seek the driver not the keeper. I'd rather pay court costs than send these muppets a cheque, and i still havent bothered replying to their second demand.

As people are saying here, let them chase, i'm not going to any trouble for them, i don't even want a note of cancellation. I just don't care about them enough, the matter is over for me.

Good look Emma, keep that will power up and don't send money in a moment of weakness.
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Love your letter...are you in the legal profession

From my dealings with them and reading others experiences on here I'd just ignore them.

My second letter just said that if they didn't provide proof (they want £10 for a photo) I would treat their demand as being with menaces and ignore it.

Have heard nothing since which in my book means we're RIGHT to be ignoring these charlatans!

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Well...just received my "final reminder"

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...tml#post982019

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I've just received my "Final" reminder today also. They must send them out in batches! Maybe they can only afford the stationary costs when every 1 in a hundred people actually pay them.

I'm slightly concerned about bailiffs knocking at my door, but i imagine it's all bluff as it has no legal grounding whatsoever (obviously). I can't imagine them paying £250 (correct?) just to try and recover £90 from little old me.
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Yes, I was under the impression this was a small claims court matter, not county court...but then I'm probably wrong

Still not getting the money...!

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Yes, I was under the impression this was a small claims court matter, not county court...but then I'm probably wrong

Still not getting the money...!

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It's the small claims procedure in the county court.
The term "small claims court" is a misnomer.
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So are these people going to actually issue me with a summons? I was under the impression that they didn't bother.
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So are these people going to actually issue me with a summons? I was under the impression that they didn't bother.
Don't have a clue. What you absolutely must not do is to let any bailiff or anyone purporting to be a bailiff into your house unless and untill a court has given judgment against you which you have failed to meet and futher that the court has issued a warrant of execution.

I'm not saying that that is where it will go of course, what I am saying is that if you let a bailiff into your home you lose certain rights.

Prior to that, if a bailiff or person purporting to be a bailiff attempts to force their way past you into your home call 999 immediately and report an intruder who is attempting to or has gained entry by assault.
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I won't be letting any bailiffs in of course, but that's not what i asked. I asked whether this company will actually attempt to take me to court.
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I won't be letting any bailiffs in of course, but that's not what i asked. I asked whether this company will actually attempt to take me to court.
Apologies, I genuinely can't answer that. What they will do is try and make you think that they will and they will try and make you think that they have certain powers before they do so.

If they do attempt to take you to court then at least they are being honest about it and you will have the opportunity to defend yourself. The process is not something to be concerned about, it's very informal. Think of it as more of a round table discussion. Rules are much more relaxed and certainly no wigs and gowns etc.
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I just find their threats unnerving, when they catch me off guard. Usually after a day or so i buck up and get back to simply being angry at them. I'd rather go to court than cave in, i just don't want to imagine bailiffs visiting my home while i'm at work.

I guess they prey on this fear, which is why i despise them.
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chococat, do not worry about small claims court, it is actually very civil and the judges are very understanding, not in the least bit intimidating. I recently went to court for a bank charges claim and was very surprised and happy about it all.
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That's very reasssuring to hear, much appreciated Big Man.
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Old 7th September 2007, 19:21   #56 (permalink)
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Do not worry about Bailiffs, they are a long way off, if ever. Take the advice from the experienced on this site, Bailiffs cannot enter your home without the Warrant of Execution, which has to issued and signed by a Judge, and you will certainly be informed of this by the Court, before any Gorilla comes a knocking.

Whatever you do, do not let any one into your home without fully checking thier documents for authenticity. !
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I even do that with friends
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HI all
Have been reading your threads avidly as I too have received notices from these cowboys! Am sending a copy of your second letter telling them to contact the driver of vehicle, as my company is registered keeper, and our ticket was also issued at mcdonalds gatwick drive thru, etc. in june and I too received the standard final reminder this morning. AS seems to be the case with everyone else, they also cannot spell my name correctly! Will keep you all posted with outcome. Thanks to Big Man for the advice about the 'gorillas', will remember that if it comes to that. Hopefully not.
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Hi All,
I too have received a final reminder for the FULL amount of £170,yet the signs within the car park state £150.They did NOT respond to my letter telling for them to contact the driver,which is no great surprise!!
Does anyone know if I have any standing on the difference of the amounts this company is trying to extort and any advice as whether to respond or not and in what format?
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