Combined Parking Solutions wins another case, this time in Scotland

[englishsummer]

freakyleaky, you can assume what you like

[gwc1000]

Originally Posted by englishsummer

Gwc1000, he does

I suppose that's on the PPC database as well.

[freakyleaky]

Englishsummer, there is no need to be discourteous.
Can you not just address the points I made directly?

[electron99]

I cannot accept that the figure of 5% is correct.

I suspect that in excess of 50% of invoices a PPC issues remain unpaid.

This does mean that if you ignore an invoice the odds are stacked in your favour that you will not be taken to court; and when you factor in the percentage of court cases a PPC looses, the odds for the motorist are very good.

[Al27]

Al27, what student case are you ok about ??? Please explain with your knowledge of it ???

I'll try and find some details about it, but I can't remember off the top of my head. It was a student who parked on university property time and time again and made it clear to the university that there was nothing they could do and continued. This was back in 2000 or 2001 I think.

You're never going to enamour yourself to a judge with that attitude.

[Shovel]

It's not on casecheck....

[englishsummer]

Take a look on perkys website for your answers, under legal issues .. The case in on there and is very useful, the sherrif principal is now a lord in the court of session and very well respected ..

[MARTIN3030]

Looks like this was an extremely exceptional case.
Convincing everyone here that this is a typical outcome of a case,or will be in all future ones,is a different matter.
Especially coming from anyone whose vested interests are in trying to justify such a result as being the right one.

[WebFerret]

Checking out Perkys website - it seems to have some legaly required aspected missing for a website!

It shows the company details as:

Combined Parking Solutions
PO Box 4487
Wolverhampton
WV1 9BP

Email: info@combinedparkingsolut ions.co.uk
Sales Line: 0871 288 4606

© 2006, Combined Parking Solutions - All Rights Reserved.

But I cannot find any reference on Companies House for this name?

No registered company number showing?

No full postal address (PO BOX numbers not allowed!)?

And no direct company phone number (only a premium rate sales line)?

And the link on the page to "Contact us" is not working?

Perhaps the site is still under construction - lol

Ref: The Companies (Trading Disclosures) Regulations 2008 No. 495

[MARTIN3030]

Originally Posted by electron99

I cannot accept that the figure of 5% is correct.

I suspect that in excess of 50% of invoices a PPC issues remain unpaid.

This does mean that if you ignore an invoice the odds are stacked in your favour that you will not be taken to court; and when you factor in the percentage of court cases a PPC looses, the odds for the motorist are very good.

Seems that PPC does relatively better than some,which makes it even more difficult to believe this 5% figure ?


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[BaldyBaldwin]

i cant help feeling some of the advice handed out on these forums has contributed to the chaps downfall

[freakyleaky]

Originally Posted by BaldyBaldwin

i cant help feeling some of the advice handed out on these forums has contributed to the chaps downfall

What makes you say that? I was not aware the person in question had asked for advice from these forums.

[WebFerret]

On CPS website it has posted a number of judgements and they all show the 'Claimant' in each case as simply that of "Combined Parking Solutions (a trading name) PO Box 4487, Wolverhampton, West Midlands WV1 9BP"

Nowhere does it confirm the 'legal entity' behind this trading name - am I missing something here? but I would say that the legal entity, trading as (whatever), should be stated as the claimant if this is to be a legal order?

Perhaps those in the know would confirm if there is an anomaly here?

[BaldyBaldwin]

"What makes you say that? I was not aware the person in question had asked for advice from these forums."

read the original post,
perhaps not on this forum,

The point i am trying to make is that the advice given out on this forum is to just ignore any private parking ticket you get and you will get away with it regardless of the circumstances, and IMHO that is sometimes irresponsible as there are two sides to every story.
This forum was started to fight back against cowboy PPC,s but now it just seems to tell people that you can park were you like and if you get a ticket, so what ?, you will get away with it.

[HSBCrusher]

This forum was started to fight back against cowboy PPC,s but now it just seems to tell people that you can park were you like and if you get a ticket, so what ?, you will get away with it.

I quite agree.

If you use a parking space, you should pay for it, as I told another user the other night.

However, these "penalty" tickets are just invoices and have no standing in law. This is not a "test case" and is an isolated case at that.

Parking companies need to operate within the law, and quit their bully-boy tactics. Even to think about threatening someone's house over some unpaid parking tickets is in my opinion quite immoral and shows up a lot of parking companies for what they are.

[flyingdoc]

Yes you can move for bankruptcy but the COURT decides on payments not you. If the courts think his payment offer is reasonable they will not grant a bankruptcy order.

You seem to be relishing the thought of bankrupting someone, which makes it little wonder that people revile you so much.

It also amuses me that you seem to hold this single victory up as a beacon that what you are doing is legal and that you are winning.

The liklihood is that you won this case because the person you took to court appears (by your reporting of the case) to be a serial abuser of the car parking system, with over 30 "offences."

I find it highly unlikely that you would have won this case had the defendant had a single "offence" to his name,

My own opinoin, and it is nothing more than an opinion, is that what you are doing is both illegal and immoral and although you may from time to time enjoy an occasional win in court - the overwhelming trend will be that you will lose.

I dont however wish upon you that in losing, you are made bankrupt. only a moral degenerate would wish that upon anyone.

[freakyleaky]

Originally Posted by BaldyBaldwin

read the original post,
perhaps not on this forum,

The point i am trying to make is that the advice given out on this forum is to just ignore any private parking ticket you get and you will get away with it regardless of the circumstances ........

I think you would find that the advice to someone who came here saying they had over 30 unpaid tickets would be slightly more substantial. This is an exceptional case.

[BaldyBaldwin]

"However, these "penalty" tickets are just invoices and have no standing in law. This is not a "test case" and is an isolated case at that."

thats exactly what i am on about, who said they were penalties? and if they are invoices then they do have basis in law, a lot of PPC,s now operate within the law and yet people on this site just tell people to ignore invoices and they will go away, very soon people will start to be on the wrong end of a court judgement after following "advice" given on this forum by people who do not know what they are talking about but are just merely parroting some they have read on this forum

[HSBCrusher]

there are 2 sides to the argument BB.

The same with the banks... folks do run delinquent accounts, and the banks do need to make profits somewhere.

however, bank charges impact on everybody, the innocent as well as the not so innocent, and why should a bank be making profits from the poorest in society? Its wrong.

Its the same with this issue.. there are those who are inconsiderate. The current remedy doesn't work, and is unlawful. A new solution is required.

For the avoidance of doubt I will repeat

If you use a parking space, you should pay for it.

[BaldyBaldwin]

thanks for that Crusher, thats exactly the point i,m trying to make