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Old 20th April 2008, 21:29   #1 (permalink)
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Would you send replies to PPCs recorded? The proson, I am looking into the for is literally watching their pennies. My only concern is, knowing the lying scam we up against, PPC will just deny ever receiving it. Cheers in advance!
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I always send any important post either special or recorded delivery - you get proof that way of receipt.
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Would you send replies to PPCs recorded? The proson, I am looking into the for is literally watching their pennies. My only concern is, knowing the lying scam we up against, PPC will just deny ever receiving it. Cheers in advance!
waste of time stamp money they will just ignore it
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No, it's not a waste because if you ever need to prove anything in court, you would have the receipt.

It is always important to have a paper trail and to be able to show documents were received, whether they are ignored or not.
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Thank you. Now, just noticed the sneaky b****rds only gave a PO Box address on their invoice - registered or recorded will not be accepted by Post Offic if it's a PO Box address. Need to find where this PPC is actually based and send it to their actual office.
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I believe special delivery will - let me check ...
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They can - although they need to be collected with a set time.
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http://www.postoffice.co.uk/portal/p...diaId=25700673
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Thanks, Tiglet, for the link. Meanwhile, I see if the Google will produce the results. If it's a company it has to be registered and be listed in some directory.
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In any subsequent Court action the Judge would only look to confirm that the Plaintiff had made reasonable attempts to contact the Defendant and given notice before any Court action. The Defendant is not obliged to reply to unsolicited demands for payment before any Court Hearing.
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as i said no point wasting your money you cannot be forced to pay an unenforceable invioce fact.the only thing you owe them is for there loss.which if its a free car park its zero if its a 1.00 a hour and you overstay a hour or do not pay for the hour you are there you owe them a 1.00.anything else is a penalty. NOT ALLOWED IN CONTRACT LAW checkout legal petes sticker its all there
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It is a free shopping centre car park. The person's car wheel was over parking box line. It is a total scam, I checked their signage and in my opinion it is designed NOT to be visible, but that's a longer argument then the one I am pusuing. I want help that person to get out of it as they take it a bit more serious rather then for what it is - Dutch lottery, so popular in the 90's.
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Up to your friend, of course, but I've found it prudent to always ensure i can back up everything.
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as i said no point wasting your money you cannot be forced to pay an unenforceable invioce fact.the only thing you owe them is for there loss.which if its a free car park its zero if its a 1.00 a hour and you overstay a hour or do not pay for the hour you are there you owe them a 1.00.anything else is a penalty. NOT ALLOWED IN CONTRACT LAW checkout legal petes sticker its all there
Untrue, they can also claim enforcement costs and consequential losses.
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no they cant its a unenforceable invioce just ignore it. file all letters you me need them if you run out of toilet roll
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Personally I would not entertain PPC's with any corrispondance other that of answering to a bonified court summonds for the following reasons:

1) They have written to you as the RK and not the driver - their first failure in their attempt to prove a contract exists.

2) None of the corrispondance they send are recorded and therefore they have no proof of delivery to show a court.

3) By responding, you only prove that you exist and simply encorages them to persue you more.

4) The game they play, is that of intimidation - no corrispondance from them is designed to correct an incorrectly issues invoice - their only agender is to extract as much money as possible form you with the least amount effort - sending threatening letters serves this purpous excellently!

5) In entering into a 'dialogue' with these types only adds to a very stressful situation - ignoring is by far an easier and less stressful option in my view.

As a last point - if I ever (and I'm quite looking forward to it in a funny way) go to court to face a PPC - I will be delivering by hand to the PPC, in front of the Judge, a letter. It will be along the lines of the following:

By reading this letter you agree to enter into a contract with me and agree to pay me immediatly the sum of £10000 in compensation of all the stress and anguish caused by these proceeding. The sum of £10000 will allow me to take a very nice luxury holiday where I can relax and forget about everything your company has put me through over the last 'XX' months in alledging that a contract existed between me as the RK and the landowner and having suffered continued harrasment in your relentless persuit of monies alledgedly owed.

This I think sums up well the question of contract law that the PPC's are reliant on in winning any case in court.
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Personally I would not entertain PPC's with any corrispondance other that of answering to a bonified court summonds for the following reasons:

1) They have written to you as the RK and not the driver - their first failure in their attempt to prove a contract exists.

2) None of the corrispondance they send are recorded and therefore they have no proof of delivery to show a court.

3) By responding, you only prove that you exist and simply encorages them to persue you more.

4) The game they play, is that of intimidation - no corrispondance from them is designed to correct an incorrectly issues invoice - their only agender is to extract as much money as possible form you with the least amount effort - sending threatening letters serves this purpous excellently!

5) In entering into a 'dialogue' with these types only adds to a very stressful situation - ignoring is by far an easier and less stressful option in my view.

As a last point - if I ever (and I'm quite looking forward to it in a funny way) go to court to face a PPC - I will be delivering by hand to the PPC, in front of the Judge, a letter. It will be along the lines of the following:

By reading this letter you agree to enter into a contract with me and agree to pay me immediatly the sum of £10000 in compensation of all the stress and anguish caused by these proceeding. The sum of £10000 will allow me to take a very nice luxury holiday where I can relax and forget about everything your company has put me through over the last 'XX' months in alledging that a contract existed between me as the RK and the landowner and having suffered continued harrasment in your relentless persuit of monies alledgedly owed.

This I think sums up well the question of contract law that the PPC's are reliant on in winning any case in court.
thanyou im glad someone else knows how there scam works
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