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Old 2nd November 2008, 15:12   #21 (permalink)
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see this as an into FAQs - PPCs - fighting back. The forces are aligned data protection register is available on line for anyone to query Information Commissioners - Data Protection Public Register as is companies house WebCHeck - Problems
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Hello Lamma

Thanks for your mail . I have attempted to send you a copy of the letter I hope you get it ok. I don't know how to do it so have had to guess!

I have begun writing a letter back to the company here is my rough draft, what do you think?

Dear Madam,
If you are a member of the BPA AOS then you will be aware that you can only clamp for trespass when all signage is correct and unequivocal and you have landowner rights etc. A vehicle cannot be clamped for a previous offence regardless of whether you are on private land or not. i.e. clamping would need to be as a result of a current ongoing transgression and not merely as a means to blackmail the owner into paying a previous charge.


You should also be aware that according to:Regulation 7 which deals with aggressive and unfair trading practices:-

7.1 A commercial practice is aggressive if, in its factual context, taking account of all its features and circumstances –
a) it significantly impairs or it is likely to significantly impair the average consumer’s freedom of choice or conduct in relation to the product concerned through the use of harassment, coercion or undue influence; and
b) it thereby causes or is likely to cause him to take a transactional decision he would not have taken otherwise.
7.2 In determining whether a commercial practice uses harassment, coercion or undue influence account shall be taken of –
a) its timing, location, nature or persistence;
b) the use of threatening, abusive language or behaviour;
c) the exploitation by the trader of any specific misfortune or circumstance of such gravity as to impair the consumer’s judgement, of which the trader is aware, to influence the consumer’s decision with regard to the product;
d) any onerous or disproportionate contractual barrier imposed by the trader where the consumer wishes to exercise rights under the contract, including rights to terminate a contract or to switch to another product or anther trader; and
e) any threat to take any action which cannot be legally taken.
7.3 In this regulation –
a) ‘Coercion’ includes the use of physical force; and
b) ‘undue influence’ means exploiting a position of power in relation to the consumer so as to apply pressure, even without using or threatening to use physical force, in a way which significantly limits the consumer’s ability to make an informed decision.

"Whilst this is a new and untried regulation, members should be aware that sending a demand for payment to the vehicle keeper (as opposed to the driver) - without making it clear that the liability is with the driver – would fit within this regulation. Members should also be aware of the methodology used in the escalation of excess parking fees, ensuring that this escalation cannot be considered to be an ‘aggressive practice’."

"Members should therefore ensure that – for the time being – all correspondence with the vehicle keeper makes it clear that the contractual liability lies with the driver who parked inappropriately".
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You should also be aware that according to:Regulation 7 which deals with aggressive and unfair trading practices:-
You should put in what regulations you are quoting from. Its not clear from your mail.

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Thanks for that I will try to find which regulation I got the quote from
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hi
last year i recived 2 PCNs i paid one buy check but disputed the other, bailffs clamped my car in december so i paid £700 for the disputed pcn as i recived no letters, the bailff then told me i had another outstanding PCN for the one that i paid by check... i sent en email to the parking service and they replied by sending me a letter asking for proof.... i then sent them a letter stating that i had not recived no corrspondance telling me that the PCN was not paid!
i have looked at my bank statements and the amount was not taken out my bank. I have not receive any letters since dec only having my car clamped and towed away today!
surely they are at fault as well for not sending any warnings.... shouldnt the Bailff given me some time before toing my car? what do i do now i cant afford to get my car released?

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last year i recived 2 PCNs i paid one buy check but disputed the other, bailffs clamped my car in december so i paid £700 for the disputed pcn as i recived no letters, the bailff then told me i had another outstanding PCN for the one that i paid by check... i sent en email to the parking service and they replied by sending me a letter asking for proof.... i then sent them a letter stating that i had not recived no corrspondance telling me that the PCN was not paid!
i have looked at my bank statements and the amount was not taken out my bank. I have not receive any letters since dec only having my car clamped and towed away today!
surely they are at fault as well for not sending any warnings.... shouldnt the Bailff given me some time before toing my car? what do i do now i cant afford to get my car released?

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You should post this in its own thread as it's not really relevant to this sticky which is for clamping on private land.

Clamping for unpaid PCN's is covered by legislation and there are strict procedures to be observed.
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"Damages claimed for trespass must be paid to the landlord so unless the clampers and the landowner have a water tight agreement they may be acting unlawfully."

I have a question on this point: I know of a situation where the land-owner employs private clampers. The land-owner does not pay the clamping company, and neither do they receive any of the clamp-release fees. The land-owner benefits, I suppose, since people observe parking regs more carefully, and are also better about paying their daily parking fees.

Would this arrangement seem to be in breach? If so, of what (is it case law, or some regulation)? What could be done about it?

Thank you!
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