Fined for being 8 miles above speed limit-Help

[SupermanX]

Hi

Can someone help? I've received a letter from the police claiming that I have been over the speed limit and as a result of this they want me to name the driver at the specified date and time on top of that they want to give me 3 points+ £60 fine+ court ,,the car does not belong to me,,,it was a rented vehicle.

is there anything I can do to avoid the 3 points on my license? I've never had any points on my license? How should i respond to the letter? shall i go to court and defend my self? or ignore?

Thanks

[mnrbig]

If it was a rented car, then the rental company has already given you up. Did you do it?

[dx100uk]

yep good question.........did you do it?
if so, then hold your hand up.. no excuse


dx

[Spiceskull]

Have to agree with the others: rental company will have a duty to notify police of driver/hiree at the time, and clearly this was you.

3 points and £60 for breaking the speed limit? Assuming you did, then to be honest I do not think you have much to complain about...that is a fair and reasonable punishment, and hopefully it will make you think again before going that bit too fast in the future...

[ReasonableRon]

Originally Posted by SupermanX

Hi
I've never had any points on my license?

I didn't realise these people still existed :o

[tifo]

Originally Posted by ReasonableRon

I didn't realise these people still existed :o

I'm one. 19 years ....

[ScarletPimpernel]

I'm one too - 26 years...

[Spiceskull]

I got three points in 1986...so that makes me 22 years...

[nero12]

Originally Posted by SupermanX

Hi

Can someone help? I've received a letter from the police claiming that I have been over the speed limit and as a result of this they want me to name the driver at the specified date and time on top of that they want to give me 3 points+ £60 fine+ court ,,the car does not belong to me,,,it was a rented vehicle.

is there anything I can do to avoid the 3 points on my license? I've never had any points on my license? How should i respond to the letter? shall i go to court and defend my self? or ignore?

Thanks

right long shot here,

what was the instrument they used to catch you.

we all know garret 20/20's are next to flippin useless and are callibrated with a pitch fork and washing machine (forget about self calibration this is even worse)

Fixed cameras are shoddy and mobile units can in certain circumstances be inacurate, instances like when you turn them on and when you use them!!


Have you asked for photographic evidence of the offence

you can also ask for under the freedom of information act ask for,

callibration certificates and maintenance records of equipment used(moblie and fixed)

Training records of the officer or person concerned in the use of the
equipment and a copy of the certificate of competence issued.


poket book notes of the siting and setting up of mobile units


Positioning of other cars (mobile, may have metered someone else)

weather conditions at the time (mobile, fixed direct sunlight affects readings)


Direction of source and destination if you were followed (chase unit)

Distance of track and continued space beteween (chase)

Written details of the partnerships procedures for the use of mobile
Speed cameras and laser detectors.(mobile, fixed)


you are entitled to ask for this lot for your defence.


For the record see this link !!!


BBC News Player - Invention prevents speed fine

[tifo]

Originally Posted by nero12

right long shot here

you are entitled to ask for this lot for your defence.

why is it a long shot if they have to provide this info as part of your defence?

[Lula]

Originally Posted by tifo

I'm one. 19 years ....

16 years for me, never had a point (famous last words eh?) but we are all guilty of speeding somewhere at sometime.

[SupermanX]

Thanks everyone for the advise.

[revolting peasant]

I'm one of the good guys - 26 years without a blemish on my licence.

Superman - you didn't actually answer the question. Did you exceed the speed limit?

The current ACPO guidlines allow for speedo error and suggest that 10% + 2mph is the tolerance for speeding, so in a 30 mph limit you would not be prosecuted for doing 35 or less, in a 40 that would be 46mph and in a 70 that would be 79mph.

This is likely to be replaced in the near future with a flat 5mph tolerance.

[HSBCrusher]

8mph over the limit? What was the limit?

[tumble]

A notice has been received by a friend of mine for what appears to be the same offence. I immediatley thought id log onto cag as generally there some pretty clever people nocking round this site. It appears on this particular post there are a load of camera operators saying tough pay up. There are ongoing arguments as to the infringement of human rights regarding the completion of the notice of intention of prosecution under section 172 of the road and traffic act. "You have the right to remain silent" yet on this form you are asked to incriminate yourself or face a further penalty should you challenge the offence and fail. Does nt seem quite correct regardless whether the offence was committed or not. High flyers and celebritys appear to have no problem "getting off" speeding offences guilty or not using expensive solicitors.. If there is a loophole for these cash generators then lets pool resources to find it. I am not condoning dangerous driving just the legality of the process.
Tumble

[SupermanX]

the speed limit was 30 mph

[revolting peasant]

Then if you were doing 38 the penalty is correct and you have no choice but to accept it.

In response to Tumbles allegation that we are a load of camera operators, well what a load of genitals. In my opinion, 38 in a 30 does constitute dangerous or at least careless driving. The driver has a responsibility to be aware of his vehicle and it's surroundings at all times.