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Old 7th April 2008, 00:09   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Please help Excel parking

Firstly, i have read through the stickies, but there is just so much information to take in

I parked at the rear of a charity shop whilst I went in to give them a lot of baby clothing. There is a sign stating no parking unless unloading etc. This is by Excel Parking Services

I knew the signs existed, but I have always parked there when dropping off at this particular charity shop.

I came back to my car about 20/25 minutes later to find a ticket on my windscreen for a fine of £40.

The ticket has my car details etc, but the ticket states that my car is green, when it is actually blue, also the fact I was dropping off at the shop which I thought would be classed as unloading, seeing as the clothes are taken around the rear of the shop.

I would like to know if I can challenge this, or should I just bite the bullet. I have read about the 'unknown driver' part, but is that really worth it

Any help very much appreciated


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The ticket details are unimportant as its not a legal document. The choice over whether to pay or not is yours. You can either do nothing and ignore the letters that will follow or pay just to avoid the hassle and stress. I guess it depends on your attitude to the matter and how much £40 means to you. £40 is quite 'cheap' as far as these tickets go but at the end of the day its £40 you could spend on something else (or give to the charity shop).
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To be honest £40 means something when I have a baby and a partner working part time

If I challenge it, will my 7 days limit still stand or will this be a case of dispute of debt? I'm not too sure how to go about it.
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To be honest £40 means something when I have a baby and a partner working part time

If I challenge it, will my 7 days limit still stand or will this be a case of dispute of debt? I'm not too sure how to go about it.
Who knows?? They make the rules up as they go along!!
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have spoken to the charity shop about this situation?
if you did spend 25mins there and did not go elsewhere then i think its unfair, but as with all privte parking co's , they have there own rules until someone challenges them

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You really don't need to pay this. Even if the ticket were legally enforcable (which it isn't unless they take you to court and win - unusual and unlikely), you were loading/unloading.
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snico4, don't pay, this is just what they expect, it's your money not theirs. They are just bullying crooks, go and read through the stickies again, it has all the information you need to derend yourself. A few people here also kicked Excel butt in the past, you are not alone.
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Thanks for the info, I'll try and get a decent letter drafted up
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Look at other threads as well. There are basically two aproaches to it, either go head first and state you position or wait till they come writing to you. Personally, I think let them do all the work, I'll just write cold but polite 'fob off' replies and see how long they are prepared spend chaising up the person I am representing.
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I am proud to say I kicked Excels butts and they ended up sending me a cheque. Stick to your guns about unloading, play up the donating to charity bit, and be firm. Tell them to arrange the court case or stop harrassing you.
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Hi, ita been a while since I first started this post.

Today I received my 'red' letter asking me for payment or they will issue court proceedings which my result in a warrant being issued to the bailiffs.

Should I reply to this letter, even though it is 7 months old?

In large letter on the back of the letter it says 'You have lost the right to appeal!'

I did not even appeal to them in the first place, should I pay this £100 or write them a letter?

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they will ignore the contents any letters you send and just take it as read that you are a potential payer (aka victim). you were unloading. just ignore them and let them waste more of their own time and effort. I would waste a stamp even to wind them up.
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Ignore them.

CERTAINLY DONT PAY £100!!!
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I dont intend paying it, I 'm just not sure whether I should write them a letter stating my opinon etc........or just ignore them completely. I do not want bailiffs knocking on my door in the future
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I dont intend paying it, I 'm just not sure whether I should write them a letter stating my opinon etc........or just ignore them completely. I do not want bailiffs knocking on my door in the future
send them the empty envelope with no stamp on, and cheque enclosed written on the back, as I was advised, then leave them to harrass you with letters and pretend debt collection, then take them to court for harrassment, these guys will help you.

have fun...pay nothing.... I paid them.....damn I wish I hadn't.....

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I dont intend paying it, I 'm just not sure whether I should write them a letter stating my opinon etc........or just ignore them completely. I do not want bailiffs knocking on my door in the future
bailiffs can only be sent after you have ignored a CCJ ordering you to pay someone, Excel will never be able to go that far.
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Thanks a lot, I will keep that in mind
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send them the empty envelope with no stamp on, and cheque enclosed written on the back, as I was advised, then leave them to harrass you with letters and pretend debt collection, then take them to court for harrassment, these guys will help you.

have fun...pay nothing.... I paid them.....damn I wish I hadn't.....

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I do not recommend send an empty envelope like that - it would be misleading. But if you wrote "check enclosed" on it it would be merely an instruction
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I too do not recommend sending an empty envelope. There should be a blank piece of people [or a print out of the Mansfield excel court debacle] inside, "check enclosed"
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