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Old 3rd April 2008, 16:49   #1 (permalink)
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Hi everyone

I would like some advice please.

I live in a road where we have ridiculous double lines! On a recent visit to my house the gas man told me that because the lines are broken and faded and that the t bar is not visible the lines are not enforceable. In fact while the gas man was at my house (parking on double yellow) he was about to be given a ticket by a warden. He told them they couldn't because of the broken lines and they seemed to accept what he said and didnt issue a ticket.

I therefore assumed it was ok to park on the lines, even though I tend not to unless absolutely necessary.

I have received a ticket after half my car was parked on the end of the double yellow lines. I had assumed it was ok to park there now.

I am curious as to whether people here think it is worth me trying to appeal.

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Can someone point me in the right direction on how to post pics. There doesnt seem to be an option to upload from my browser.

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If there is no T bar then they are unenforceable, but you will have to go through the entire appeals process as the Council are unlikely to cancel the ticket when you appeal informally to them
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Scan it into your computer and open it in Paint or similar program. Edit out the personal information and save it

Open an a/c on Photobucket, (here: Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket ), download them there from your computer and then post the link from Photobucket in your thread here.

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Thank you Michael.

Here's my photos. Am I pushing my luck?

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There is no set rule on the quality of yellow lines and at appeal some win some lose. They are obviously meant to be there so I wouldn't just park there on the word of the 'gas man' it is not him after all that has to go to all the bother of appealing each ticket you get for parking there and pay if you lose the appeal. If you ring up the Council to complain that you are getting PCNs on a faded line they will more than likely just come and re paint it rather than stop enforcing it.
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AS G&M says taking it to appeal is a risk and that's your call. If you reported it to the council and they came and repainted them, that would actually strengthen your case.
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