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Old 18th March 2008, 16:51   #1 (permalink)
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I've been having fun reading through the posts here and it really does make me laugh to see the doubting thomases making outrageous claims which are entirely theoretical.

My company can and does take people to court, and we do win!

For those of you who think refusing to name the driver is an option; think again - judges generally side with us when it comes to slippery eels trying to avoid paying and they can and do make judgements against the registered keepers of vehicles.
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Old 18th March 2008, 17:32   #2 (permalink)
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OK troll, name one car-park in West Yorkshire (ideally Leeds) that you operate in.

Go on name one

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Old 18th March 2008, 17:33   #3 (permalink)
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I've been having fun reading through the posts here and it really does make me laugh to see the doubting thomases making outrageous claims which are entirely theoretical.

My company can and does take people to court, and we do win!

For those of you who think refusing to name the driver is an option; think again - judges generally side with us when it comes to slippery eels trying to avoid paying and they can and do make judgements against the registered keepers of vehicles.
OK - Usual routine - Details and transcripts of your most recent successful cases required forthwith - the last 10 should do nicely.

Failure to do so may result in your credibility being shot.
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I have absolutely no doubt that if a private parking company actually did their job properly, prepared a reasonable case, outlining reasonable loses to a judge, relying on properly singposted areas in accordance with guidelines and making it quite clear to everyone that they are in breach of a reasonably constituted contact and not breaking the law, they would have every chance of winning their case.

The problem is that the majority of firms in this business rely on shortcuts, untruths, intimidation and ignorance of the law by those that you target. As a result, the prospects of your success are going to get less and less every month as people get wise and produce properly documented and formulated defences.

If you are one of the 0.005% who actually do the job right and get results, congratulations. You will get no argument from us. If you are in the other 99.995% of the thieves and scammers, then I would suggest you start getting very worried for your business because the tide is turning in favour of a properly regulated industry where the low-life get rich quick scheisters which currently infest it will not survive for long.
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Old 18th March 2008, 17:54   #5 (permalink)
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HPS V Busby
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Old 18th March 2008, 18:03   #6 (permalink)
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Tell you what you name a car park in West Yorkshire that you operate in and we'll see how far Illegal Scamming Artists V Mossycat gets shall we.

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Luckily for you mossycat, I am nowhere near West Yorkshire. I will not disclose where I am for fear of jeopardising ongoing cases.

It's always amusing to receive the letters I have previously read on here: you'd think people would modify them more from the original!
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"fear of jeopardising ongoing cases."

If you are sure you are in the right then you shouldn't have this fear. Since you do have this fear you must know you are in the wrong.
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Honest Parking,

Troll Feeding but.............

Here I go anyway,

What is your business model?

What wording do you put on signage?

What wording do you put on tickets?

HPS v Busby!!!!!!!!!!!! what does this mean? Give us verifiable details not just random numbers from the phone book.
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hello "Honest Parking".

nice to have you with us.

Our letters work, hence no need to change them is there?
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HPS V Smith
HPS V Berry
HPS V Macdonald

Our signage is very, very, large. If you can't see it, then frankly you should not be driving.

We obtain a good success rate through being open and honest. The registered keeper is our first point of contact in unpaid cases, and while they may not be the driver, in around 80 percent of cases they were - and they know it. So do the courts.
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Our signage is very, very, large. If you can't see it, then frankly you should not be driving.

We obtain a good success rate through being open and honest. The registered keeper is our first point of contact in unpaid cases, and while they may not be the driver, in around 80 percent of cases they were - and they know it. So do the courts.

never mind sineage ,if you dont know the identity of the driver then how do you establish contract. So how do you win if you cant prove anything


Me thinks you are a wind up merchant
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Contrary to popular belief we do not need to.

The DVLA recognise we are legitimate in giving us the keeper details.

The courts will uphold a claim against a registered keeper if the ticket has been correctly issued.
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Contrary to popular belief we do not need to.

The DVLA recognise we are legitimate in giving us the keeper details.

The courts will uphold a claim against a registered keeper if the ticket has been correctly issued.


erm yes you do need to establish!
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erm yes you do need to establish.
Says who?

I have the impression that one or two pseudo legal types have put this message about, which is then blindly echoed by numerous armchair pundits.

In court, we dont have to. Come to court with me and see what happens.
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I am willing to give you the benefit of doubt over the Court cases as I beleive cases are winable at court if the companies bother to turn up.
What I don't get is why you would come onto a forum to inform your prospective 'customers' that they will lose in court. Surely if everyone listened to you, eventually you would go out of business?
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If everyone listened, we would be better off.
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If everyone didn't contest and paid up you mean!
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Says who?

I have the impression that one or two pseudo legal types have put this message about, which is then blindly echoed by numerous armchair pundits.

In court, we dont have to. Come to court with me and see what happens.

ok, as i think you are an armchair wind up merchnt ,what law are you using.
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