Glasgow City council PCN's

[rodenal]

Perhaps some of you on this site could provide me with a little know-how and or advice on an issue i have with two pcn's from glasgow city council.

At the end of december i received notice from a company(sheriffs officers) called 'Scott and Co' in relation to two unpaid parking charges from june 2007.

Now this surprised me because

1.) My company pay all my parking fines as i can receive them through being in meetings that go on longer than planned, being up on scaffolding longer than expected etc etc

2.) I have never received either of these notices.

3.) I never had any correspondence regarding the notices from glasgow council, only the sherrif officers

I sent Glasgow city council a letter stating that i had never received either of these tickets, and requested the proof that these had both been served.

This was at the end of december, sent recorded delivery so i know the letter has been received.

The council have not replied to my letter, despite promising me that they would have dealt with it by the end of the week, two weeks ago.

The company scott and co. have now introduced charges for these tickets still not being paid!! despit me telling them that the council have not responded to a letter sent recorded delivery. Glasgow have definately received it, as i have the recorded delivery proof and they have also admitted this on the phone.

My questions are:

1.) Due to the length of time taken by the council to respond(i.e over 30 days) are these tickets still valid? it seems they have no proof.

2.) As i never recieved the PCN's themselves - do i have to pay £90 a ticket or do i have grounds to pay £30 a ticket?(the 'if you pay within 14 days') option

3.) The charge applied to the tickets, is there any way i can have this removed?

Any help or advice greatly appreciated. To be honest i dont doubt the parking offences occured but i find it very strange that i never recieved the PCN's, and the first correspondence i received was from Scott and Co.

[old_andrew2007]

bump

[rodenal]

Slightly confused as to why you're bumping an hour old thread?? lol

[old_andrew2007]

Could you pm some of the more experienced members with a link to your thread, chesterexpress is a partner in a law firm, I am sure he will advise.

[old_andrew2007]

Any Luck, or will you have to pay

[rodenal]

Still no real change in the situation unfortunately

Nothing from glasgow city council

and no more correspondence from 'scott and co'

Still looking for advice really as to what my next course of action is

Do i send Glasgow city council a letter stating that as they have not replied within 30 days this is an unreasonable length of time and the charges must be dropped? or am i completely barking up the wrong tree with that one.

[old_andrew2007]

Chesterexpress may be able to advise could you pm with a link to your thread

[rodenal]

I have done but unfortunately it is not his area of law

[old_andrew2007]

Sorry

As you can seen there is heaps of advice on private parking, my brother has found advice by accessing pepipoo, PePiPoo: Helping the motorist to get justice

[pin1onu]

Sorry don't know much about the process in Scotland. You can probably get some information from Scottish equivalent of NPAS. There's no website link but they do give contact details.

Scottish Parking Appeals Service
J Floor
Argyle House
3 Lady Lawson Street
Edinburgh
EH3 9TH
Tel. 0131 221 0409
Fax. 0131 229 7189

[battyboomboom]

Ignore old_andrew2007, he's a bit of a troll/spammer TBH.

As I understand it, the tickets have been registered as a debt as you haven't appealed, and the sheriff officers will try and get payment off you - how much is it anyway?

You should ask the council for the PCNs, NTO and all other correspondance relating to you - a subject access request - enclose a tenner and they'll do it. Then I think you can complete a statutory declaration to get the debt set aside and allow you to go back to the NTO stage which will allow you to appeal or at least pay the reduced rate I think.

You could also post up the letter, removing personal details etc, so we can have a look. You might also get help over at FightBack Forums -> Parking Tickets

There are also posts by bmwman on here on the subject of stat decs.

[rodenal]

Thanks for the replies,

I have requested copies of the pcn's and nto's and correspondence, however did not include the £10 as i wasn't aware i had to word it as a subject access request.

Given that they have not even acknowledged my letter, and that it has been sent recorded delivery, with delivery proof do the council not have some time limit to reply to my request? i.e 30 or 60 days?

I have checked today and this was sent on the 03/01/08

I'll have a look at the other forum too, thanks

Forgot to mention, the charges are £90 each so £180

Plus a 'charge' that has been added - im not aware of how much but i'd hazard a guess at £30 a ticket.

Not a chance i'll be paying that

[old_andrew2007]

Originally Posted by battyboomboom

Ignore old_andrew2007, he's a bit of a troll/spammer TBH.

As I understand it, the tickets have been registered as a debt as you haven't appealed, and the sheriff officers will try and get payment off you - how much is it anyway?

You should ask the council for the PCNs, NTO and all other correspondance relating to you - a subject access request - enclose a tenner and they'll do it. Then I think you can complete a statutory declaration to get the debt set aside and allow you to go back to the NTO stage which will allow you to appeal or at least pay the reduced rate I think.

You could also post up the letter, removing personal details etc, so we can have a look. You might also get help over at FightBack Forums -> Parking Tickets

There are also posts by bmwman on here on the subject of stat decs.

Lets hope he can find the info he requires with help from the forum you have directed him too, "Ignore old_andrew2007, he's a bit of a troll/spammer TBH."
I stand by all advice I give, and take time to look up links, Thehre is much info on fighting private tickets not too much on those issued by councils.
If you wish to complain about any comments made by myself then why not refer it to a moderator.
Andy

[old_andrew2007]

Rodenal
It occurs to me that a moderator may be aware of a member with specialist advice, in this case is scottish law very different to that in england and wales

[HSBCrusher]

please be civil to each other ladies and gentlemen.

thank you.

[old_andrew2007]

Originally Posted by HSBCrusher

please be civil to each other ladies and gentlemen.

thank you.

Hi
since your on line now can you recall any member who has experience with PCN, I did suggest chesterexpress as he is a partner in a legal firm, however not his field.
Would it be possible for the name of some members with experience to be placed at the head of each forum

[rodenal]

Old andrew you're not really helping to be honest i keep getting messages to my hotmail saying i've got replies only to find what's basically waffle.

This is not meant to offend but unless there is information that may help me please do not add to the thread

[old_andrew2007]

hi

can you up date us with any news

Regards

Andy