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9th January 2008, 16:02
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| | Classic Account Customer | INSIGHT! The entire procedure,misconduct from a PCN to a County Court, 'CAUGHT' INSIGHT! CAMDEN COUNCIL
The 60 seconds that put them under notice inviting them to a 'caught'!
This case is a detailed hold-your-hand through the entire Road Traffic Act 1991, Parking Adjudicators -
PATAS, Traffic Enforcement TEC, and the Local County Court. The council’s derogation of essential parts of it, along with their their own code of conduct., used as a distraction, further the interests of revenue, ahead of principles of Truth, Tort, Justice and Fairness, by means of incentivised, and wholesale manufacture of opportunism to confer SUBTRACTIONS described as ‘AWARDS’. One; of many, consequences is that the increased power, re-labelled as ‘authority’ influences each court it comes in contact with, in a manner that compromises that court’s integrity also. At each stage of the process; referred to by PATAS reviews et al, as a scheme; OED 5b. A plan of action devised in order to attain some end; a purpose together with a system of measures contrived for its accomplishment; a project, enterprise. Often with unfavourable notion, a self-seeking or an underhand project, Read FIVE incontrovertible contradictions in just ONE LETTER alone; others following, up to 12 contrarieties in that same single page letter. Why this case being placed in the public Domain? It is an ongoing process whose causal determinants belong to the council, as former defendant; tacitly consenting by way of failure in response to an invitation to resolve. System like shark’s teeth, folded back, once in, even if innocent, your as good as swallowed.
Comments concerning colours, centring, etc APOLOGIES. They have been examined and all taken in to account in a revised presentation, some people are using Mozilla browsers and there were some inconsistencies.
The case is complex, that too has been re-appraised and I hope simplified to better understand this unique case, that took a year and half and is unfinished business until all is published. If people cannot understand the details in logic, and disambiguation reasoning. then it is not for them. The link is the same. use this first. http://www.logiclaw.co.uk/Injustice
Last edited by Medusa; 14th January 2008 at 14:13.
Reason: simplify
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9th January 2008, 17:36
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| | Classic Account Customer | Re: INSIGHT! The entire procedure,misconduct from a PCN to a County Court, 'CAUGHT' Quote:
I really do want to understand what this is all about, but I have to
say, I find it all utterly impenetrable.
| The point is that the Drafting of the legislation is full of potential for omissions by councils, which gives opportunities to deliver Charge certificates, and Bailiff letters to those who don't understand the process SIMPLY BY OVERLOOKING the duty of care to send a NTO, appeal forms and so on, or acknowledged receipt of a representation.
I think your response speed indicates you have not even gone over the ten minute read part, and that suggests an immediate block to what is a penetrating insight as to how the system is out of control. Have a look at the thread bmwman just below here, I am posting a response to bring it closer, it is very much a traversal along those lines. HE IS taking the time to understand it, and progressing very well, with some 800 reads, he is taking it slowly bit by bit.. It needs to be taken in small stages, and what you see is just a small part of the exposure.
bmwman Has Anyone Reclaimed Paid PCN
It's also likely that without a PCN and some unjust pressure, you wil not have the motivation to even try to understand it. It not that impenetrable.
Look at what they did, and see they got an informal appeal, then a formal one, THAT GOT signed for, then because they wanted to stop the claimant, they breached his EU HR fundamental rights wilfully and ignored his right to an appeal,. This is taking place, as was foreseen then, on a grand scale now, if you wish to see how widespread it is, then have a look at. Biased Adjudas will consider in 21 days whether to award costs against us! - FightBack Forums
this person is getting very many charge certificates, and bailiff letters, and his cases are just at the appeal stage. THAT's what it is all about.
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9th January 2008, 18:05
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| | Classic Account Customer | Re: INSIGHT! The entire procedure,misconduct from a PCN to a County Court, 'CAUGHT' Thanks for that, point taken, I will pass that on and try to get it made simpler.
First is is all in ENGLISH and the words are in the dictionary I assure you. It is the abstract level at which it is pitched. More importantly, if one reads the legislation, that TOO would daunt most people.
If anyone goes to a solicitor, he will find these regulations too complex and also will find most will not take on civil cases because of that complexity. They find criminal cases much much easier. So this is pitched at the semi professional who needs a solicitor, can't find one, and it's too expensive anyway, so he does a DIY job. THAT is just one focus group.
This is not a quick fix for people JUST wanting to get off one PCN. That is a permanent site for helping people whoa are also criminally treated and completely innocent. Many people are punished for trivia, and he council's trivialise their own offences, that has to stop, and this is a contribution. Probably one of the last ones.
Have a look at http://www.twtanb.co.uk
Which is such a case. This information is being used by some substantial national named companies, who are making successful appeals, I am aware of one that has had some 600 plus appeals upheld because of such information. Because they are being treated in exactly the same way and understand the frustration.
Many people wouldn't dream of opening the bonnet of a car as its too complex to fathom SOME people will do, and they learn from the experience.
As stated, will be sure to pass that on, and get some modifications to help.
Meantime I have to be away for a short while. Good luck to those where it DOES help.
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9th January 2008, 18:20
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| | Classic Account Customer | Re: INSIGHT! The entire procedure,misconduct from a PCN to a County Court, 'CAUGHT' Perhaps these two ' reputation' comments posted internally to the material from others is useful in helping you make your mind up that it is perhaps not for you, yet? But others find it helpful. Quote:
Extremely helpfull First Class
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Excellent rest. cases info, thanks
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9th January 2008, 22:06
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| | Classic Account Customer | Re: INSIGHT! The entire procedure,misconduct from a PCN to a County Court, 'CAUGHT' Medusa.
I have to admit as well that I consider myself to be of reasonable interlect, capable of understanding often complex contractural arguements. However, your style of writing and the way that things are laid out mean that following what you are trying to say is almost impossible for the average person. I have looked at other posts that you have made, and the links that you provided and they are incomprehensible. I have tried reading several, many times over and still can't get a gist for the point you are making. Even the introduction to this post is written in such "legalese jargen" that it made me reluctant to go any further.
Clearly you have done a tremendous amount of work on the subject, and it is also obvious that several of these local authorities have upset you in the past. If you are trying to get a message across to others that you have found faults in the system which can be used against them, you would have far more effect to lay them out in far clearly language than you have used to date so that others can follow them more easily.
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11th January 2008, 14:35
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| | Classic Account Customer | Re: INSIGHT! The entire procedure,misconduct from a PCN to a County Court, 'CAUGHT' Quote: |
It really is a waste of time.
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They don't think so at nearlyt £ THREE BILLION as it stands at present. |
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14th January 2008, 14:11
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| | Classic Account Customer | Re: INSIGHT! The entire procedure,misconduct from a PCN to a County Court, 'CAUGHT' First I think the derogatory remark as I recall it, was aimed at the council. I could be wrong, but that was how I understood it. Nevertheless!
Other comments concerning colours, centring, etc MANY APOLOGIES. They have been examined and all taken in to account in a revised presentation, some people are using Mozilla browsers and there were some inconsistencies.
The case is complex, that too has been re-appraised and I hope simplified to better understand this unique case, that took a year and half and is unfinished business until all is published. If people cannot understand the details in logic, and disambiguation reasoning. then it is not for them.
The link is the same. http://www.logiclaw.co.uk/Injustice |
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14th January 2008, 22:02
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| | Platinum Account Customer | Re: INSIGHT! The entire procedure,misconduct from a PCN to a County Court, 'CAUGHT' Quote:
Originally Posted by rocket1 Dear Medusa
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