Private Parking Tickets - Template Letters - If you wrote before finding this site.

[clockworkorange]

I've just joined this forum as my girlfriend received a letter out of the blue from Trethowans Solicitors (mentioned already earlier on in this thread).

The letter warns that the vehicle registered to her committed an offence in a car park resulting in a charge notice being issued, which remains unpaid. The letter is vague about the charge, it just says the vehicle "did not adhere to the Parking Regulations as details on the Notice Boards" and threatens court proceedings.

It's also vague about the location of the offence. "George Eliot" is all it says - we had to search the internet to find out this relates to a hospital car park in Nuneaton.

Well, I can confirm that neither I nor my girlfriend have ever been to Nuneaton in our puff! We live in Glasgow, the offence was dated in August, she's owned the car a lot longer than that, and it hasn't been out of Scotland let alone anywhere near Nuneaton.

To me it screams mistaken identity, either the attendant has written the registration down wrongly or someone has a cloned number plate. It would be nice if the letter detailed the make & model of the car - I bet it doesn't even match!

I've e-mailed Trethowans (their e-mail address is given on the letter) to explain everything including where the car was at the time stated. However the experience of "southernsoftee" on this thread makes me wonder whether common sense will prevail without us having to get a solicitor of our own involved.

I have to say as well that the tone of the letter is appalling, guilt is assumed and it is obviously meant to sound threatening. Payment details printed in bold and all. Pathetic!

[crem]

Originally Posted by clockworkorange

The letter warns that the vehicle registered to her committed an offence in a car park resulting in a charge notice being issued, which remains unpaid.

How naughty of the vehicle to commit an offence. Maybe Trethowans should have a stern word word the car.

The letter is vague about the charge, it just says the vehicle "did not adhere to the Parking Regulations as details on the Notice Boards" and threatens court proceedings.

Once again, this vehicle clearly needs a good telling off. Perhaps we should support Trethowans in taking this vehicle to court to teach it a lesson

I've e-mailed Trethowans (their e-mail address is given on the letter) to explain everything including where the car was at the time stated. However the experience of "southernsoftee" on this thread makes me wonder whether common sense will prevail without us having to get a solicitor of our own involved.

Oops, writing to them and expecting common sense has been a mistake. All you have really done is establish a line of communication for them which they will exploit for many moons to come. You will not need a solicitor I am sure so save your money on that one.

I have to say as well that the tone of the letter is appalling, guilt is assumed and it is obviously meant to sound threatening. Payment details printed in bold and all. Pathetic!

Ah! so it is a standardly formatted PPC letter then.

[clockworkorange]

Crem,

so do you think they can be convinced to go away just by my writing to them? The e-mail that I've sent demolishes the basis for the charge, all they have to do is make a couple of rudimentary fact checks and they will see they are wasting their time.

Nevertheless I'm fortunate enough to know someone who is a solicitor so they're going to do me a favour and write to them anyway.

Cheers

[crem]

I doubt anyone writing to them at this stage, either you or your solicitor mate, will make them go away. By all accounts PPCs and their asociates don't even seem to read letters you send them so have no idea what strong defense you have.

Best general advice is usually just to ignore anything they send your way, but keep it safe for your day in court. (not that I would hold your breathe on it ever getting that far)

[Dee52]

Thanks for the above reply from Crem. Have just checked the ticket again and just want to confirm before I ignore it (bit of a scary thing to do I must admit). It's entitled Bedford Parking Services, then lists Traffic Management Act and Civil Parking Acts etc. Under that it says 'Where the PCN is issued for a contravention in an off-street car park, the enforcement authority is Bedford County COuncil. In all other cases, the enforcement authority is Bedford County Council with Bedford Parking Services Acting as its agent.' The ticket was issued by a Civil Enforcement Officer.
I was in a car park so am assuming that alters things and I have the Council to contend with, or are they baffling me with lots of words. That being the case, should I take different action? Thanks again. Am very appreciative of your help.

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[crem]

If the PCN is issued by a council, or on behalf of a council then it does move the goalposts into the legal arena. BPS sounded more of a PPC then council, but if it clearly says they act for the council then it makes it a real PCN.

I think the best thing to do now is post a link to the PCN (after removing your personal details from it) so that the council PCN experts on here can have a look at it.

An official PCN does have a valid appeals system (unlike the PPCs) so it may be worth persuing at this stage if you let people see the PCN.

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[southernsoftee]

Trethowans ignored my email I wrote to them some weeks ago, and has gone on to send me another letter, stating if I don't pay them £50 within 2 weeks, they'll pass me back to CP Plus, and they will take me to court.

I'm calling the SRA on Monday, although god knows how they can help me!

I might have to see if I can get a Solicitor on legal aid for this one!!!

[southernsoftee]

what is a ppc? and is cp plus one of them?

i'm trying to get an idea for my own case. ie if you park illegally, and a 'proper' ticket warden catches you, then you don't have much hope, but if if's a private firm (which i'm gathering ppc means) then you can fight it, because they are not the 'proper' wardens. am i right?

[Dee52]

Crem, thanks. Apologies, but I am not sure how to do what you suggest. Do you mean scan the ticket and post it somewhere on this site?. I am a new girl and still have not explored all the intricacies of this fab site. I do have a scanner if that is what's required. Ta

[Chancerz]

Hi, I hope someone can help/advise me..?

I am in a similar situation as southernsoftee.

I have recieved a parking ticket from CP Company but had a valid ticket clearly on display.

I sent them a letter asking for photgraphic eveidence but have recieved nothing apart from a letter saying that they have the photographic evidence but it will only be provided in the event that this case proceeds to court!! The letter then goes on to say that "All vehicles are photographed prior to the issue of a charge notice so that the contravention of the regulations can be confirmed in the event of a dispute".

If they have photographic evidence why don't they just send it and save the case from going to court?

I persoanlly think they don't have any photographic evidence as i know my ticket was clearly diplayed and a photo would show this!

It's been a month and I have not yet replied to their letter!

Should i reply? Please advise?

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[crem]

Originally Posted by Chancerz

a letter saying that they have the photographic evidence but it will only be provided in the event that this case proceeds to court!!

If they have photographic evidence why don't they just send it and save the case from going to court?

I persoanlly think they don't have any photographic evidence as i know my ticket was clearly diplayed and a photo would show this!

It's been a month and I have not yet replied to their letter!

Should i reply? Please advise?

For the least effort route just continue to ignore. If you don't mind (or even relish a little fight) you could reply "OK, I'll have a look at your photographic evidence when we meet in court"

[pozzy]

Hi, I have been advised by someone that parking restrictions can not be enforced 24 hrs a day. Is this correct? I received a ppc for being parked in an empty retail car park from 20.18 til 22.53 when all but a Domino's Pizza takeaway were closed.

[crem]

Originally Posted by pozzy

Hi, I have been advised by someone that parking restrictions can not be enforced 24 hrs a day. Is this correct? I received a ppc for being parked in an empty retail car park from 20.18 til 22.53 when all but a Domino's Pizza takeaway were closed.

It sounds like you were parked in a private retail park in which case you are using wrong terms like "restrictions" and "enforced" which imply legal standing. As it is private they can make whatever "rules and regulations" they like. Equally, as they have no legal standing you can choose not to abide by them (other than on moral grounds like not using yellow bays if it would inconvenience disabled people etc) and ignore their invoice.

If they genuinely don't want parking out of hours, they should have a drop barrier at the entrance.

[pozzy]

Thanks for that, so you wouldn't send a letter to them?

[Chancerz]

I am going to hold fire and will wait until they send me another letter. Will update with any new news if received. Thanks Crem for the advice, i wish i hadn't written to them in the first instance...

[crem]

Originally Posted by pozzy

Thanks for that, so you wouldn't send a letter to them?

Advice within the forums is never to make any initial contact with them and wait till they pay the DVLA 2.50 to get the RKs address. If/when they do this and write to you, update this thread for further advice.

(ps I got a PPC invoice 1st week of June and still haven't had a letter to RK)

[pozzy]

I have got the letter from civil enforcement demanding a payment of £60 within 14 days or £120 within 28 days. This was the first I knew of the Parking contravention. Should I write to them now?

[odp1]

Hi All,

I am currently working for the NHS, where I pay for a parking permit at £10p/m. I have recently been issued a parking ticket from the trust, for parking on double yellow lines within the hospital grounds. Although the lines were present, I was not causing any obstruction and there were numerous cars parked on these lines. It has been brought to my attention, that these fines are not issued daily and therefore was just unfortunate I received one. The fine is currently for £15, if paid within 14 days. After this it doubles. I have also been made aware that the "permit holders" spaces are being taken up by patients/ relatives attending the hospital.
I would be very grateful if someone would be able to advise me of a draft letter in which i could forward to cancel this fine.

Kind Regards.

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[My Real Name]

Originally Posted by odp1

Hi All,

I am currently working for the NHS, where I pay for a parking permit at £10p/m. I have recently been issued a parking ticket from the trust, for parking on double yellow lines within the hospital grounds. Although the lines were present, I was not causing any obstruction and there were numerous cars parked on these lines. It has been brought to my attention, that these fines are not issued daily and therefore was just unfortunate I received one. The fine is currently for £15, if paid within 14 days. After this it doubles. I have also been made aware that the "permit holders" spaces are being taken up by patients/ relatives attending the hospital.
I would be very grateful if someone would be able to advise me of a draft letter in which i could forward to cancel this fine.

Kind Regards.

There is no basis in law for them to enforce any "fines". Start a thread, post images of the invoice, and folks will be along to inform you of what action (if any) you might consider.

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[hansolo]

hi, can anyone help please, i recieved a parking ticket whilst parked in cornwall in a private carpark in july foe £70, i had purchased a ticket but it fell to to floor by the gearstick of the van when i exited the vehicle via the rear doors, unknown to me.it was visible if you looked through the side window.
I appealled to WJ Parking with no luck (but now realise that was a waste of time anyway).
Since i have recieved letter from CCS Collect stating they authorised to prepare documents for county court proceedings & no dobt legalfees costs intrest will be added to the debt, with other refrences to credit prblems & mortgages etc if i do not pay.
I ignored the letter after reading various things on the internet.
I have now recieved from 'Charles Howard & Partners' a PRE LEGAL NOTIFICATION, & failure to make contact or imediate payment of &130 debt + £160costsmay result in enforcement action via the county court.
Any advice on what to do next will greatly recieved.

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