Private Parking Tickets - Template Letters

[jotom]

Hi, can you help!!

I have been following the template letters for a parking ticket for UKPC and so far have sent 3 or 4 but now I have received a letter from them which I cannot see a response to.....
I will not write it all out as it is very long but in basically says:
Thank you for recent communication, the case has been reviewed but the parking ticket was not unjust or unreasonable so the charge will not be waivered. We are willing to reduce the payment to the £45 as if paid within 7 days because of the appeal time taken but after 7 days it will be passed onto debt collection agency (which I have already received a letter from anyway and replied) They appreciate that this is not the outcome expected but the decision is final, they will no longer correspond with me but they will keep any letters I send them on file unless I provide new evidence to substaniate my case.

Please help, I have been quite calm up until this one but it sounds so final!! Please could you tell me which template letter to use because all they have continued to say so far is that I am the owner/keeper so it is my responisibility. Like I said above, I have sent out the relevant letters that you recommend in the order you recommend but they never seem to answer a question.

Any advice would be really appreciated.
Thanks
Joanne

[Barnsley Boy]

Jotom,

Don't worry - this is just another standard letter from UKPC. If you read through one of the longer threads on the forum to do with UKPC [there are several] you will come across this letter quite a few times. It does not actually mean anything. Take them at their word - they will not communicate with you further........good because you are getting bored with it all anyway.

Unfortunately these scammers don't mean what they say. After you ignore them you will get another "Final Opportunity" to settle in a few weeks time.

Please calm down, there really is no need to concern yourself with these paper tigers and their empty threats.

Hint - You will get more responses by starting your own thread rather than "piggy backing" onto an existing thread. It can be considered bad form to highjack although it is of course understood that new users are not aware of these conventions.

[jotom]

Thanks for your reply.

Sorry for contacting you on the wrong section but I have no idea how to use this site and just saw a reply button and pressed it.

I will calm down and not worry now.

Thanks Jo

[Peckhamrose]

Hi all, well the latest is that despite the fact I was not driving the motorcycle when my friend allegedly parked it in the wrong place (and the photo shows just the back of the bike and no wider context, so no proof there then!) UKPC have ignored my questions in my letters and now Rossendales Collect debt collection agency have written to me demanding £135!

I have replied to them using the template letter in these pages. I may have to let them take me to court for this one. I am scared but I just may let them and you can all come too!

[besiktas]

Hi there, I had a look at the template letters but cannot find a sample which may help me with the following:

I received a letter with a PCN copy attached from Europcar for a parking offence. Within couple of days a received the original PCN from Camden Council. Europcar invoices me (+ admin charge) for the same charge now Camden Coucil also charges me with. I wrote to Camden Coucil that this fine should have been paid by Europcar ( as they had my Credit Card details) whoch they have failed to do (now fined has been increased by 50%). Furthermore camden Councils letter clearly states that, If the fine is already paid to Europcar it is "my problem" and they need the payment too.

So to summarise

who is to be paid for this offence
- Europcar
- Camden Council

In the meantime the fine has gone up too by apparent negligence on behalf of europcar (my belief) - but thats the next stage to argue.

Thanks
Harry

[letshelp]

Peckhamrose,
You seem to be allowing yourself to be sidetracked about where the motorcycle was parked and how it was parked, for the purpose of clarity, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE OR HOW IT WAS PARKED', the ticket, penalty, charge notice call it what you will is not enforceable. These clowns are not taking you to court, they are not sending round 'The Boys', They are just trying to scare you into paying them money thats it, there is no legality to it whatsoever.
For the other posters, please try not to panick, the advice given on here will see you through this. Other posters like myself have had several 'tickets' from these scammers over the years, and yes, I'm still waiting to be taken to Court, still waiting for the home visit, this is over a period of 2 years. I have had all manner of threats short of, 'we are coming to kill your dog'.
Do what I do with the letters, when I feel a bit down I have a read of them and it gives me a good laugh and cheers me no end.

[itfrank]

HI All
Well after writing and sending my letter back to the debt collection agency.
Guess What!

They responded with a very short 2 line letter,


We have noted your comments, and have passed your case back to the parking company as we are no longer dealing with.

Now lets wait and see if the parking company try it on, especially after their debt collection agents have dropped this like a hot potatoe.

If they do, will let you know.

Cheers

[vic789]

Hi people, another newby to the site
I've had an utterly annoying ticket for parking in "restricted area of a car park" from Vehicle Control Services in Bradford area. Does anyone have any experience with these paracites? I've looked at the template letters, thanks for generously posting those for all to see. Before venturing into the unknown i just wonder if anyone has had previous experience with the Sheffield based organisation.

[lamma]

see Help please ticket from Sheffield Based VEHICLE CONTROL SERVICES

[itfrank]

ITFRANK

Well, if you scroll back to page 3 after me sending my letter back, the so-called debt collection agency wrote back a 2 line letter saying
"thank you for your letter dated "sometime" the contents of which have been noted.
Your case has now been returned to (private parking company), therefore we are no longer dealing with it.

Its now been some 4 weeks, guess what, thats right, a big fat NOTHING

so stick with it, and scr*w these cowboys

[loza]

Hi Guys, am new to this site but I too have been subject to a Private Parking Ticket! Hope you can help.
I received a parking ticket in a retail park from Excel parking. I read through the helpful advice on this website and ignored the ticket. They subsequently sent me a letter saying that I hadnt paid within the given period and was now subject of a fine of £100 + court and solicitors fees if this went to court.
I sent them the letter as suggested by Bernie the Bolt and it read:

Dear Sirs,
Re: Your letter dated XXXXXXXX, Reference XXXXXXXX.
I acknowledge receipt of your captioned letter. It seems that you have got my details from the DVLA and I confirm I am the keeper of the vehicle in question. You need to take this matter up with the driver concerned.
In the meantime I absolutely deny your claim that the amount claimed, or any amount at all, is due to you from me.
Yours faithfully

I have today received a reply from Excel to this letter stating that I must provide them with the details of the driver according to paragraph 4.2 of the Pre-Action Protocol before 5th September to aviod further preceedings.

I have never heard of this protocol being referenced in any of the posts on this thread and I am confused as to whether it applies or not. Also, I am right in thinking that as this is a civil matter is it not covered in the RTA, section 172 and I have no obligation to provide these details?

I was also going to mention in my reply to them that this is causing me increased stress and anxiety and quote Section 40 and the Protection from Harrassment Act.

Please can someone help me and advise me of the approach I should take.

Many Thanks
Loza

[lamma]

Excel are really struggling now - in fear of the new consumer regs and a few other things. their claim over "paragraph 4.2 of the Pre-Action Protocol" is rubbish. that is to do with costs not the issues of the case ! if they told the truth and just asked nicely for the id of the driver (which is ALL they are supposed to do according to the Consumer regs and the various commitments they have made as members of the BPA) then of course everyone who knows anything about it (such as all our visitors) would just ignore their request. So they made up this rubbish in the hope that it will trick people into 'coughing and avoid the 2008 Consumer regs. they are mistaken in that regard. Don't forget that the guy who runs Excel pulls down over 400,000 a year so he will be beating up his legal team (the same ones who had their heads handed to them in court recently) for wording that protects his revenue stream and his high living. In summary, they are stuffed - its just more rubbish. read the protocol and you will see.

[letshelp]

As Lamma says they are talking rubbish, they have no power to, 'fine' members of the public. its Bullsh*t to panic you into making payment. Keep hold of it to give yourself a good laugh when feeling down. Or post it on here, washed of all personal details to give us all a laugh.
regards

[angela-27]

i have read this thread extensively and am considering how to deal with my own PPC invoice.

the template letters are good. yet it seems that whatever you say to them, the PPC will continue to write to you. isn't it better just to not contact them at all?

[lamma]

I firmly believe so.

[letshelp]

I always write, 'take the matter up with the driver'. Then ignore all further letters, because if nothing else it shows the matter is in dispute.
Having said that, have no problem with the ignore all school of thought.
regards

[Deornorth]

I have just been reading this thread- very helpful!

I thought that I would add that I have just received a letter from Parking Eye for the Upminster Aldi myself. The interesting bit is that the car park has had ticket machines installed, 20p for 2 hours. Now the issue is that Parking eye are timing from driving in to the park and exiting whereas the ticket that my wife bought was within the 2 hours (sadly we don't have any more).

Now I called Parking Eye who told me the tickets from the machine are irrelevant- they don't mean anything and shouldn't be there!

So- I know that there are fines being issued if someone parks for say 10 min without a ticket- and people are being fined if they are over 2 hours.

Interestingly Parking Eye say that there shouldn't be any ticket machines there...

So- with Parking Eye, parking without a ticket for under 2 hours is fine and for whoever has installed the machines it is not!

Weird ?

Anyway- I will be refusing payment BUT thought someone might like to comment on having two contradictory dual systems in the same car park...

[Michael Browne]

So- with Parking Eye, parking without a ticket for under 2 hours is fine and for whoever has installed the machines it is not!

Look forward to Parking Eye explaining that in court!!