Private Parking Tickets - Template Letters

[Bernie_the_Bolt]

Originally Posted by chazblat

This is helpful; I'm still keen to know whether a ticket has to be signed or not though. Does anyone know?

If you start from the position that a private parking ticket invoking a penalty is not lawful anyway, whether it is signed or not is irrelevant.

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[KB2000]

Hello again.. Bernie the Bolt!

As you know, I have posted a few times regarding these Europark people and have followed the advice given but they will just not go away! This started when my son parked on Tesco carpark for all of 20 minutes!

He has received a further letter today, just when I thought they'd gone away, from Controlaccount Credit Management saying

It is a legal requirement to send notice of an intention to make a civil claim before that claim is issued. This letter fulfils that requirement and has been sent to you at the last address we hold for you.

this is your final chance to prevent litigation being commenced against y ou; if you ignore this warning then proceedings may commence and judgement will be sought. The cost relating to such litigation will be added to the amount claimed, together with interest at a statutory rate of 8%.

If judgement is obtained and an order for repayament in full is granted but remains unpaid, enforcement of that judgement may be sought by the following procedures:
- Warrant of execution by bailiff against goods owned by you
- Application for an Attachment of Earnings
etc etc.....

I'm not sure what the next step should be. Any advice please?

[Bernie_the_Bolt]

If you receive a formal sealed claim form from the court come back here and I am sure that people will be very happy to advise.

[KB2000]

OK. Thank you but in the meantime does he not reply to this letter from this collection company?

[pirouk]

i am expecting some letter from then, will follow this guide and see what happens.

[Tusses]

Hi

We have just received by post to our address.

The PCN was from Parking Eye for an Aldi Car park in Bedworth £70 reduced to £40 if early payment

now read this next bit carefully !

They have made a mistake with who the charge is addressed to.

My wife is the registered keeper for the vehicle. Her name on the log book is just (not real name) Apple Banana-Collie

My name is Bruss A Collie

The letter is addressed to Mr A B Collie.



So - do I just write back as Mr Bruss Collie and say there is no Mr A B Collie at this address. ?

If you read the letter, it is clearly aimed at the RK of the Car's Reg which is my wife - Definitely not a Mr !

Or does my Wife need to write with a standard template letter - even tho the letter is not 'Entirely Correct' (wording they used that we would be admitting to the letter being entirely correct if we pay)

Thanks
Tusses

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[Tusses]

I guess I posted in the wrong place - sorry. Can someone move it to where I will get an answer please

Thanks

[Tusses]

hmmmm .....

can anyone see my posts ??????

did I register properly ???
Hello
Hello
Hello



anyone out there ???

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[battyboomboom]

Best thing to do is do nothing at all until you get actual court papers.

Which you never will.

[Tusses]

Originally Posted by battyboomboom

Best thing to do is do nothing at all until you get actual court papers.

Which you never will.

That contradicts what most seem to say - and defeats the idea of this thread of template letters !

As I said - they got the name of the RK wrong at the moment . I have written back to them simply stating there is no one by that name here.

[battyboomboom]

Well yes, but there is only 1 school of thought here: don't pay.

Just different ways to go about it, some say you're likely to get more letters if you write to them, but whichever way you do it the end result is the same - fraud, harrassment and then they give up if you don't bother paying.

[MalMonroe]

Help! Is anyone there? I posted before about Excel and having input an incorrect registration number. Now they have sent me a final demand prior to court action. I must admit to feeling a bit intimidated but I am prepared to go to court all the same. I just need some moral support here. I did pay and display but I didn't keep the ticket (who does?!) and they wrote to me three weeks later to say I'd not paid. I did pay but I put in a totally nonsensical number just so I could get a ticket out of the machine because I couldn't see properly. (Didn't have reading specs, only driving/distance specs). In a letter to my MP Excel admit that there WAS a 'fictitional' registration number in their system at EXACTLY the same time that my car was parked there - a total of 15 mins for 60p - but that it didn't match up with any vehicle. And I was the only one entering and leaving at those exact times!! Apart from me the park was virtually deserted. HELP!!!

[burgerhater]

My son had a ticket in mcdonalds car park in Truro last year around october. He ignored it but now he's had a letter from 'Ross & Robert legal investigations dept' saying he owes £85 to GT parking Ltd. If he doesnt pay in 7 days they are sending baillifs round. If we contact them they will add an admin fee!!!. They obviously have his details from DVLA. How do we tell them to go rotate?

[MalMonroe]

Hello! I'm sorry to hear of your son's problems but as far as I am aware, and from what I've learned from lots of learned people on these threads, bailiffs cannot be sent in unless a court/judge has given the order. In which case, they are acting illegally. If my own experience is anything to go by, they are probably just illegal anyway. I'm waiting to be advised that Excel Parking in Sheffield are taking me to court. Going on five weeks now.... still, I know these things do take time.

[reetpetite]

BurgerHater, I would tell the police about their harassment as they should take your complaint seriously, that would most definately stop them in their tracks - maybe they would try to charge the police for contacting them too!

MalMonroe, I completely agree with you; a bailiff would be illegal if not sent out by court.

I have just read Bernie's very helpful information on how he would correspond with a parking company and intend on taking similar actions myself. However, my situation is slightly different because the DVLA have issued the parking company with my maiden name, even though they have my married name on their records (yes I have double checked my driving licence)! Naughty, naughty DVLA for providing my personal data inaccurately (Data Protection Act) ! But could this work in my favour?

Assuming there is the slightest chance this charge could get to court (???), I was under the impression that the claimant must correctly name the defendant or the claim will be thrown out. Is my maiden name no longer legal which identifying me? Interesting stuff.

Also, I am concerned that in complaining to the DVLA about anything, they will seek to correct this information with the parking company, who will reissue the notice with my married name. Although, does it really matter?

Anyway, to get back to my main question, if I am to avoid providing the parking company with any further information, which of the following would be the best course of action:

a) deny anyone of that name lives at this address, return to sender
b) reply using one of the standard responses, signing all correspondence in my maiden name
c) as above, but sign in my married name (using an obscure signature which they cannot read and so cannot identify my true name)

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[Revisor]

hi to all on this site and am new myself so hope this is the right way about doing things. i was wondering if anyone has had similar woes to me and whether they know if i can do anything about it.

i parked my car in a residents parking bay in southwark, london and made the effort to ask my friend for a residents visitor parking permit. this i displayed properly but unfortunately i only scraped off the date and month section and failed to scrape off the day of the week section. i filled in my vehicle reg number as well. however when i came back to the car i found that i not only had one but two PCNs!!! the first said i "parked withoutclearly displaying a valid pay and display ticket" and the second (handed out by the same enforcement officer) was put on 2 hours later saying that i had "parked in a resident or shared use parking place displaying an invalid permit, an invalid voucher or an invalid pay and display ticket."

Firstly do u think that i will be able to get the council to waver these charges and secondly why have they given me 2!! do i only have to pay for one despite the fact i can't afford to pay for one of them let alone 2 as i am a student still!

any advice on this is ery much appreciated and i look forward to hearing back from anyone

Cheers
the revisor!

[Tigger Tale]

All the private parking companies should be listed on this site for ALL to see, especiallythose who operate the really threatening letters. Some are very tenacious and we should answer just as forcibly (and threatening ?)

[MalMonroe]

Hello! Further to my previous posting I have today received a letter from Excel's debt collection agency for a different sum of money altogether. Now I owe them £130 for some reason. I'm going to use your template, Bernie the Bolt but I'm still prepared to go to court over this. They are going to pass the matter on to Graham White who will review my case for potential legal action. I've heard that name before! Bring it on!!! yay. I think!

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[Disgruntled Brit]

Originally Posted by Bernie_the_Bolt

• Do not initiate correspondence.* This means ignore the ticket but keep it. Only write when they have written to you.
• Do not ignore letters (unless and until you have written a “cease and desist” letter).

Hi everyone!

First post after reading all your helpful information.

Referring to Bernie's original text, forgive me for being slightly dense but does this mean a ticket fixed to the car or the ticket they send you through the post?

I received the "Parking Charge Reminder" from ParkingEye (Morrisons) first and then the "Parking Charge Notice" a few days later (incidentally the reminder came just within the 14 day period but the notice was four days outside it).

Basically I'm quite keen to try out the Data Protection Complaint template letters that Bernie also wrote and then launch into the standard templates in this thread. What I want to know is whether I should do that now or wait until they've actually written to me?

I guess the next letter will be just another notice asking for the £90?

Thanks for your help!

Brit

[lamma]

what 14 day period ? ? ?
there is no such thing.