Private Parking Tickets - Template Letters - Page 14

letshelp · 8th January 2009, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parking Charge Notice

Hello,
I want to dispute this but my problem is that the charge notice has photographic evidence of the vehicle and driver entering and exiting the car park
Do I have any grounds to dispute and not pay
What should I do?

OK lets look at this alleged 'evidence'. They have sent you a photograph of your vehicle(I assume) and A driver. DON'T admit on this or any other forum that the driver is you, but that driver could be anybody, your friend, brother, cousin, the garage mechanic, who is too know, perhaps only you and the DRIVER. It is the driver that is in breach of the contract NOT the registered keeper or owner, they may possibly be different people.
So how is the PPC going to discover the identity of the driver, well if you don't tell them or correspond with them, then they have no way of finding out.
So Again if you don't correspond with them you don't even have to tell lies. The clues are within this reply

regards

lamma · 8th January 2009, 15:50

photos don't identify anyone. If I posted up a picture of one my neighbours would you know who they were ?

crem · 8th January 2009, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamma

photos don't identify anyone. If I posted up a picture of one my neighbours would you know who they were ?

Are they famous?

lamma · 8th January 2009, 20:25

even if they were it would not 'identify' them.

theduffer · 8th January 2009, 22:54

Hi, Having read many posts on unfair parking tickets on this site I have decided to fight a recent ticket issued for my car being parked over 2 bays "parked outwith marked bay" (by 2 inches) in a free Asda store carpark issued by Town & City parking Ltd. On thing I am unsure of is, when I send in a template letter to them am I formally "in dispute" and do the increased charges due after 10 days and admin charges after 28 days still apply or are they put on hold until the dispute is settled?

crem · 8th January 2009, 23:19

This is a PPC scamvoice NOT an official PCN. The way to "fight" it is do nothing!

Do not appeal.
Do not write to them.
Do not acknowledge their letter to RK when they send it.
Do not respond to their debt collector letters
Do not respond to their pretend solicitor's threats
DO RESPOND to an official court summons (but don't hold your breath that you will ever get this far)

lamma · 8th January 2009, 23:20

mistake in my view. your 'appeal' will be rejected. Ignore Town & City.

grumpygran · 9th January 2009, 14:37

Hi, I'm not sure if I've replied to the correct place.
I've just been issued a Parking Charge ticket by Central Ticketing for £40 for parking in a Tesco car park in a disabled space without a disabled badge. This was because I had my 2 year old grandson in the car and there were no Parent and Child spaces free. It was very icy and had been snowing. I am 60 and was afraid of falling with him in my arms, so parked as close as I could to the doors, right next to an occupied Parent & Child space. Incidentally, there was a car in the P & C space that was only occupied by old people without children. I was only in the store about 35 minutes and when I came out there was a ticket on my car. I could not believe it!

I don't feel they have any right to charge me, as this is a private Tesco car park and I am using Tesco's store, having been a good customer of theirs for many years. They never provide enough Parent & Child spaces and these are always abused by others anyway. There were several unused disabled spaces so I was not stopping anyone from using them. I feel £40 is extortionate. I only have a small pension and cannot afford this on top of Christmas.

I remonstrated with the car park attendant who told me to get a complaint form from the store, which I did but have had second thoughts about sending it now after reading your advice.

I have decided to do nothing unless they contact me, as they do not have my address. I am a bit scared as I can't afford a bigger fine or court proceedings. I presume they will contact the DVLA for my address. Have I done the right thing in ignoring the ticket?

lamma · 9th January 2009, 15:25

keep on ignoring - its rubbish. read the PPC stickies here and relax.

letshelp · 10th January 2009, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpygran

I have decided to do nothing unless they contact me, as they do not have my address. I am a bit scared as I can't afford a bigger fine or court proceedings. I presume they will contact the DVLA for my address. Have I done the right thing in ignoring the ticket?

Yes you have done the right thing ignoring them. When they start sending you threatening letters make sure you ignore them also, no matter how threatening they get.
regards

Lulabelle7 · 15th January 2009, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by marina88

Hi, I have rang the court today and it has been passed on. They confirmed that it's a court paper demanding payment.

I NEED HELP!!! What should i do now??

Hi Newby Here. (BTW Many many thanks for the help, advice and giggles- read:'eat you dog' et al- that I have had on this forum so far..great stuff) But was interested to hear what happened next with regards to the court case of Marina88. Is this a first?? How on earth can you be summons to court ...they will have zilch evidence presumably and furthermore have to furnish the defendant with copies of all evidence in advance dont they??
L

Conned Sumer · 21st January 2009, 21:42

Hi Guys well no other letters since my last post so its all quiet for now

I am slightly concerned that Marina88 appears to have received court papers Time to search for that users thread.

lamma · 21st January 2009, 22:09

Marina88 has gone very quiet. as yet its only the claimed appearance of court papers via a post on here, no evidence of it actually happening. If I remember it right marina88 claimed to have received court papers despite never having contacted the PPC. This would be a first - IF true. and potentially suicidal for the PPC. All we can do is surmise......

crem · 21st January 2009, 22:54

It does appear most purculiar that a PPC is going to court with someone who they have never had contact with, and where the "offence" is stated as being "parked outside of bay".

On the face if it, a claim like this should have zero chance of even getting to the starting line.

LoveableRogue · 22nd January 2009, 11:21

I remember reading a PATAS report some years ago which stated that if a local authority failed to respond to any one of your letters within 56 days, then the council was deemed to have accepted your representations, and was therefore obliged to cancel the PCN.

willfoster · 22nd January 2009, 16:57

Quick bit of feedback - I posted here in July of last year after getting a 'charge' for parking in my own workplace in a P&D carpark 'cos I couldn't get into the staff car park. Never heard anything more after my letter of July. So definitely worth ignoring / not paying these charges.
WF

nerocircus · 24th January 2009, 00:07

Hi guys

I suspect I know what's coming here but thought it was worth asking anyway.
Parked in a South Tyneside Council car park tonight, paid my ticket up until 8.30pm (as was required, stated on the sign). What I DIDN'T notice, however, was that the car park closed at 10pm (also says on sign, in somewhat smaller writing).
Came back to car at about 10.45, locked in, with a PCN on windscreen stating

(93) parked in car park when closed.

If it'll help, I'll get a pic up of PCN tomorrow, but if it's a case of 'can't do anything coz its council, not private, car park', then I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet?

Weird coincidence, coz I was JUST reading this site by accident this morning, and thought 'I'd better bookmark that, just incase!' Wasn't expecting to need it quite so soon!

As far as I can tell, details on PCN appear to be correct.
Says it was observed from 22:23 to 22:24 - does that make a difference or is it a myth that you have to be allowed a certain amount of grace time?

Any help much appreciated, thanks in advance.

AlPal · 24th January 2009, 10:23

Hi guys,
it's me again... posted last month after getting a ticket for parking in a disabled bay in tesco without a permit. Got 2 letters from UKPC to pay a fine. Ignored the 2 letters asking me to pay the fine, today I've just received a letter from Roxburghe debt collectors asking me to pay the 70 pounds fine, or the case will be passed onto their solicitor for potential legal action!!

What should I do now?? Please help!!

nerocircus · 24th January 2009, 10:43

Anyone? Not quite sure why I took photos of the sign and my ticket, i remember just thinking at the time that I needed photos of something!!

lamma · 24th January 2009, 13:41

these are the standard letters that are sent out as part of this mail based scam. Have a search here on Roxburghe, or a google wide search, we have seen loads of these letters. What you should do now in my opionion is put the Roxburghe letters in the same place as the rest of the rubbish UKPC sent you and carry on with your life.

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