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Old 19th October 2007, 23:02   #1 (permalink)
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Default Restitution. PCNs County Court orders restitution of £2500

Worth a thread on its own special, for all.

Restitution. PCNs County Court orders restitution of £2500 against Bexley County Council.

20 parking tickets to be repaid in 14 days.
A little encouragement, have a look at this one.
Just got back from Dartford County Court on a 2 dates issue against London Borough of Bexley:
The history is at:
back from court - 2 dates - FightBack Forums
Anyway the long and the short of it is I won
Restitution for 28 already paid tickets, total amount inc. costs = 2500 with 14 days to pay!
I need to get my head around things and I have a few other things to do so I will go into detail later.
Main things were JR/Barnet and Winder vs Wandsworth.
Many thanks to Wayne P, Tony W, Teufel, DW190, Legaladviser and others.
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Someone asked if there is an update on this.

YES, the full case, skeleton args, cheque repayment are being assembled here.

Logic Reasoning Thought Laws

There is no uniformity in rulings at different courts.
This serious discrepency shows apprehension of floodgates, giving sound justice to the public while defending power centres, and aspects of venal conduct among some judgements.


The misrepresentations by councillors about allegations.
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/search/display.var.1878797.0.all egations_about_parking_ar e_incorrect.php

Parking bay review for 100 streets in borough


PARKING bays in more than 1,000 streets will be reviewed by Bolton Council over the next six months.
But the council's executive committee has been told that the parking regime was not illegal.
A report to councillors yesterday conceded that most bay markings did not comply with the Traffic Sign Regulations from the Department for Transport, highlighting problems including the bay lengths and dimensions of white line markings.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/boltonnews/display.var.1861541.0.par king_bay_review_for_100_s treets_in_borough.php
A new ruling undefended by Bolton Council coming on signs and lines, that are not supposed to be illegal , deemed illegal.
The right pay ticket, wrong pay and display.
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/boltonnews/display.var.1882171.0.0.p hp
£20,00 car crushed fro £120, didn't even sell it, now that's what I call irrational stupidity, note the contradiction in terms!.
http://www.thecnj.com/camden/2007/122007/news122007_01.html
And of course, don't forget the scandal all coming onwards behind the scenes very soon.
http://www.twtanb.co.uk/
A very nasty situation has been uncovered in Bucks County, where silence is now showing guilt. TBA.

Just updated and released, Including a NPAS RULING.
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hi guys 'n gals out there !
i am going to be the proud recipient of 26 pcn 's , is this some sort of record ?
these were given at 5.45 am ( this mob get up early !) approx every day consequetively for 26 days , in the exact same location by a mobile cctv gps smartcar , doing its rounds trawling for business ,victims etc
i feel like i've been mugged ! over £2500 if i delay .

i have parked there for about 4 years on and off with no enforcement or complaints from anyone, now i find that 5 tickets, starting 3-12-07 thro 7 12 07 (but all not posted till the 19 12 07 ), i only see that there is a problem on going back to work on 27 12 07 ,and have no doubt already been issued with tickets in the system from 8 12 07 thro to the 25 12 07 ! they will be falling through the letterbox like confetti in the next few days !
any advice would be much appreciated .
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As clever as we are on here, without knowing what the PCNs are for etc its unlikely anyone can advise anything more useful than to start saving up to pay the fines.
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thanks for the advice ! the pcn 's are for 2 wheels on pavement .


yours comments on my previous posting welcomed .
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thanks for the advice ! the pcn 's are for 2 wheels on pavement .


yours comments on my previous posting welcomed .

Unless the vehicle had been moved you may be able to appeal the tickets after the first on the grounds it was one continuous contravention of footway parking since it is a restriction that last 24 hrs a day.
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thanks , unfortunately these were 25 consequitive days ,as no physical ticket was issued at the time,3 12 07 , the smartcar cctv /gps sent details to a back office , which subsequently issued batches of tickets , owing to their sneaky ways , none were received til 27 12 07 , so this was the first i knew i was being targeted - if there was a real ticket on the day i would have moved to a safer place !
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Yes but did you move the car each day? It doesn't matter if the tickets arrived by post if it was one single 'offence' of parking on the path you can argue you should have only got one PCN.
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hiya
it was moved but the gps says it is virtually the same lat /longtitude, so an interesting point , ie could have been in the same place or maybe limit the number of tickets to 3 or 4 - not 26!
i will post the pcn for viewing soon ,
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