Speeding camera fine

[bobbycat]

Nearly 2 weeks ago my daughter serverly broke both her wrist and after a
night in the hospital came home the following day.
But the hospital gave her tablets and not medicene( she is only 9)
That night she was in agony so I went out to try and get her some pain releaf , I was caught doing 37 in a 30 zone.
My question is the camera got me from the front which came as a shock
and blinded me (and my son) for seconds.
Are they allowed to do that?
This is dangerous and could have caused a accident.

[sequenci]

It's a good point but I would imagine it is legal for a camera to flash from infront, I'm no expert in this area and hope that someone with more knowledge helps soon. I will point out that driving at 37 in a 30 zone could also have caused an accident but I appreciate the circumstances.

[danny_kiernan]

A Gatso Camera - is supposed to flash behind you, when you have broken the speed limit within the lines (which follow the cameras placement), was it a gatso - easy to tell, they are big yellow boxes on a pole?

Kind Regards

Dani

[danny_kiernan]

Don't worry about a speeding fine, a frontal gatso picture is inadmissable, just spent about 20 mins researching.

I agree with you that it is really dangerous though - surely that leads to a drivers inability to pay due care and attention to a road?

Dani

[bobbycat]

Yes it has a big yellow box.

I do admit that I broke the speed limit which I regret.

The only thing what gets me is they is no need for a camera
where it is because there is no path on one side of the road
and no one can pass there at all,there is no school,no shops
nothing rearly.
It was also 20.05 at night so it was dark which made the flash
stand out more, which to me was dangerous in it self.

[Rob S]

Originally Posted by danny_kiernan

Don't worry about a speeding fine, a frontal gatso picture is inadmissable, just spent about 20 mins researching.

I agree with you that it is really dangerous though - surely that leads to a drivers inability to pay due care and attention to a road?

Dani

Gatso cameras take a photo of the rear of the vehicle.

Gatso speed cameras explained, UK Gatso traffic cameras

Truvelo take a photo of the front of the vehicle.

Truvelo speed cameras explained, UK Truvelo traffic cameras

Hopefully you are not confusing the 2 devices Dani.

[bobbycat]

Just had a look and it is definatly the Gatso camera.

[patdavies]

Originally Posted by bobbycat

Just had a look and it is definatly the Gatso camera.

Gatso is not type approved for a frontal picture.

Truvelo is type approved for both and must have a magenta flash. It has a distinctive pink/purple tint

[patdavies]

Originally Posted by Rob S

Gatso cameras take a photo of the rear of the vehicle.

Gatso speed cameras explained, UK Gatso traffic cameras

Truvelo take a photo of the front of the vehicle.

Truvelo speed cameras explained, UK Truvelo traffic cameras

Hopefully you are not confusing the 2 devices Dani.

That website has glaring inaccuracies.

1) Gatso are not type approved to cover all lanes of the M25 (or any other multi-lane situation) at once - only one lane at a time.

2) Truvelo do not have an invisible infra-red flash - it is visible magenta. This is the manufacturer's website.

[danny_kiernan]

Originally Posted by Rob S

Truvelo speed cameras explained, UK Truvelo traffic cameras

Hopefully you are not confusing the 2 devices Dani.

Truvelo Cameras don't flash, Rob - well in any perceptible way - unlike Gatsos which have a distinct flash.

[GlasweJen]

If it was an emergency you wont need to pay the fine. You need proof that you were taking an ill child to hospital though. My parents have had to rush me to hospital a few times past 2 sets of cameras at either end of the village and always get away with it as they prove that:
1. i was in need of urgent medical attention
2. they drove straight to the hospital using the fastest route possible
3. they could get me there faster than an ambulance could get to me.

[patdavies]

Originally Posted by danny_kiernan

Truvelo Cameras don't flash, Rob - well in any perceptible way - unlike Gatsos which have a distinct flash.

Absolute and utter nonsense.

Go to the manufacturer's link I provided - Truvelo has a magenta flash.

This manufacturer's brochure clearly shows the colour of the flash on page 3

[danny_kiernan]

Originally Posted by patdavies

Absolute and utter nonsense.

Go to the manufacturer's link I provided - Truvelo has a magenta flash.

This manufacturer's brochure clearly shows the colour of the flash on page 3

Oh dear semantics again,

Rather than typing quickly, I will spell it out.

A magenta flash is not as perceptible as a white flash, and shouldn't blind you. I say shouldn't, but there are reported incidents of truvelo camera filters not working.

[bobbycat]

Jenschnifer

It wasn't on the way to hospital, she had just come out. I was trying to get pain killers, she has broke both Radius and Ulmer bones in both wrists.
If Phamasists (even just one) opened on a sunday night I would have been fine, but I had been to 3 local corner shops already and was concerned over the pain she was in waiting for me to get home.

Its ok because I haven't any points anyway so this will be my first.
I just find it dangerous to be flashing someone from the front and thought it maybe illigal.

[borisbeaver]

Have you had the NIP yet?

I wouldn't worry unless you get one.

[patdavies]

Originally Posted by danny_kiernan

Oh dear semantics again,

Rather than typing quickly, I will spell it out.

A magenta flash is not as perceptible as a white flash, and shouldn't blind you. I say shouldn't, but there are reported incidents of truvelo camera filters not working.

No not semantics. You're saying now not perceptibly white. However, your previous post said not perceptible.

It is virtually impossible for a filter to fail - most cases of non-magenta flash are caused by the filter being missing.

Truvelo Cameras don't flash, Rob - well in any perceptible way - unlike Gatsos which have a distinct flash.

A Truvelo flash is required as part of type approval to be magenta and is definitely perceptible (look at the photos on the manufacturer's link I gave).

If it is not magenta, then the prosecution of the speeding case fails as the device cannot be certified as operating according to type approval.

[bobbycat]

Originally Posted by borisbeaver

Have you had the NIP yet?

I wouldn't worry unless you get one.

What is a NIP?