PCN: Broken Single Yellow Line

[nickjonesuk]

Hi,

I have received 3 PCN's for parking outside my house in the last couple of months, it is 8am-6pm (Although no sign is present) and in those instances I had got up late for work, then found a PCN on my window at 9.30AM! Bummer, everytime.

Anywho...The line is broken in several places, for 2 feet at one point. I spoke with the traffic warden (Liverpool City Council) and he said it doesn't matter because the city centre (where I live) has signs on every road into the city centre saying (Inner Controlled Zone 8am-6pm)

But whats the point of having yellow lines all over the city if those signs do the job of informing us you can't park?

All 3 PCN's are paid, what I want to know is do I have a leg to stand on because the yellow line is not to the correct specification?

Really gets on my wick because the parking permit area is UNSAFE, window smashed, wing mirrors stolen!, that was in just 2 months!) So I park outside my house and the street is very quiet. Thanks for your help guys...

Nick J

[patdavies]

Originally Posted by nickjonesuk

Anywho...The line is broken in several places, for 2 feet at one point. I spoke with the traffic warden (Liverpool City Council) and he said it doesn't matter because the city centre (where I live) has signs on every road into the city centre saying (Inner Controlled Zone 8am-6pm)

The Parking Attendant (not traffic warden) is wrong. Having the CPZ signs on both sides of every road into the city centre removes the needs for signs on posts to outline the times of operation of the lines.

If the lines are not complete, they are a nullity and not enforceable. Many parking adjudicators take a relaxed view of broken lines, but there is a High Court precedent of Davis v Heatley that basically says if the signs (and lines are signs) are not a prescribed, then not contravention can occur - even if to a reasonable man the meaning of the sign is obvious

But whats the point of having yellow lines all over the city if those signs do the job of informing us you can't park?

See above. The CPZ signs inform as regards the lines - they do not replace them

All 3 PCN's are paid, what I want to know is do I have a leg to stand on because the yellow line is not to the correct specification?

As they are paid, teh Council will consider the issue closed and therr is now no appeal to the adjudicator.

The only way to get your money back id the sue the Council for restitution in the County Court - it's not easy or quick.

[nickjonesuk]

Thank You