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Old 24th April 2008, 13:40   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All,

Following todays announcment, does anyone know what the next steps for us should be?

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Take a look here:

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Can we get clrification on point 3, and precisely which entries were not regarded to be related to a breach of contract?
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I read the decision myself - 119 pages of dense legalese is not fun to wade through - and I can expand specifically on the "breach of contract" problem.

The judge determined that the mechanism by which the *present* T&Cs of all eight banks convert Relevant Instructions to Relevant Charges is *not* by breach-of-contract on the part of the customer, and therefore also neither liquidated-damages or penalty-charges. Instead, they describe the Relevant Charges as fees for particular services, facilities or processes, and thus form part of the contract proper rather than a remedy for it's breach.

However, he did not examine or rule on the *historical* T&Cs issued by the banks in earlier years, for example the NatWest T&Cs I was bound to in 2005. These old terms are significantly different, and do invoke breach-of-contract in order to justify the Relevant Charges upon a Relevant Instruction.

So, for the benefit of business customers who canot rely on the UTCCRs, I would advise them to check the contemporary T&Cs for all the periods in which Relevant Charges were levied, and determine whether a breach of contract was responsible as opposed to a fee for a service. If this is the case for some or all of your charges, you may claim under the common-law rules for those specific charges.

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