GP problem

[kronas]

here is a brief outline of my problems, it started last year, i was on incapacity benefit, i got hauled up for a medical, i failed it, went to appeal, it was rejected, so i was left with no income, nothing, so i went on to JSA, now my health has deteriorated, i am currently seeing two specialists and a dietician, with a range of problems, depression, stomach related, loss of wieght etc, the advisors to their credit have attempted to keep my benefit going, i have come off new deal as they deemed it was too harsh for me considering the status of my health and they acknowledged i am indeed ill.

the problem is my GP refuses to issue me a medical certificate, his reason is i failed the medical in july 05 and he cannot give me one because of that, even if my condition has worsened, he says the blame lies with the DHSS.

CAB, cant help, ICAS say they cannot intervine, same goes for PALS.

so im stuck on what to do...

anyone got any advice ?

[bigboyprice69]

Can you request a new medical, as your condition has altered drastically surely you're entitled to another medical.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by bigboyprice69

Can you request a new medical, as your condition has altered drastically surely you're entitled to another medical.

nope, i need a damn certificate which the GP has refused to give one.

[DollyDayDream]

Can you change your GP?

[kronas]

Originally Posted by judithholmes

Can you change your GP?

nope, i have been told by another surgery i cant, as i already have a doctor in the same area, i would have to go out of the area, which i cannot, due to my health, plus it wouldnt gaurantee me what i need, i did talk to CLS and they refered me to the DWP website which states the clinician treating you at a hospital can provide sicknotes for social security or SSP, now he says its up to the GP, so im getting the old ping pong affect, with nowhere to go, legally i cant do anything...

[poppynurse]

You are entitled to change GP if the relationship has broken down, I would write to the senior partner at the GPs explaining your problem and your issue with your GP and see what response you get. If no joy speak to your PCT about changing.

[dragonlord002]

what you gp is saying he cant give you a sick note for same thing

big hint they can write one if you get a new condition
so time to get soime back pain
thats a new condition pluss you can add old stuff as well

hint nuber 2 i can see all this ilness has made you depresed

[kronas]

Originally Posted by dragonlord002

what you gp is saying he cant give you a sick note for same thing

big hint they can write one if you get a new condition
so time to get soime back pain
thats a new condition pluss you can add old stuff as well

hint nuber 2 i can see all this ilness has made you depresed

i have stomach problems (long history stretching back to childohood , and minor back problems.....

i dont know what to do....

[poppynurse]

Is your GP saying that you are fit to work?

[breadline]

Originally Posted by kronas

I have come off new deal as they deemed it was too harsh for me considering the status of my health and they acknowledged i am indeed ill.

the problem is my GP refuses to issue me a medical certificate,

If you now are demeed ill and are off JSA, why would you need a medical certifcate.? Is it to go back on Incapacity?
What benefit are you on now?
So the DSS have admitted you are ill, but not ill enough for Incapacity?

Have i got this right?

[kronas]

Originally Posted by poppynurse

Is your GP saying that you are fit to work?

nope, in his letter he says he cant becuase of the DWP failing me on the medical, and that i didnt turn up at the appeal, i rang them (appeals office) i was too unwell to go, they didnt get the message!

thats it!

[kronas]

Originally Posted by breadline

If you now are demeed ill and are off JSA, why would you need a medical certifcate.? Is it to go back on Incapacity?
What benefit are you on now?
So the DSS have admitted you are ill, but not ill enough for Incapacity?

Have i got this right?

i AM on JSA, im seeing a DEA, they know im unwell and took me off new deal, i want to claim incapacity and cant cant for the reasons in my posts above....

[M_A_A_B]

I dont think the DWP can affect anything to do with your GP....sounds like he's making excuses....definetly change your GP....you should be entitled to do this as someone above said, write to the senior partner.

Can you not submit a new claim for incapacity benefit? Surely they would then have to look at the claim afresh and take in to account how your condition has become worse...

have you applied for DLA??

Also...just wondering why you're on JSA and not income support??? Surely if you're ill then you cant seek employment....

[breadline]

when you come off incapacity you go into JSA

[breadline]

Originally Posted by kronas

nope, in his letter he says he cant because of the DWP failing me on the medical, and that i didn't turn up at the appeal, i rang them (appeals office) i was too unwell to go, they didn't get the message!

thats it!

what your doctor isn't doing is standing up for you like he should, your doctor should be trying to fight your corner if you are ill.

the problem here is the doctors are run by the government they are under strict guidelines with everything , even if they know they are not right they have to follow the lines given.

he wont take on the DWP.

This is my thoughts.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by breadline

what your doctor isn't doing is standing up for you like he should, your doctor should be trying to fight your corner if you are ill.

the problem here is the doctors are run by the government they are under strict guidelines with everything , even if they know they are not right they have to follow the lines given.

he wont take on the DWP.

This is my thoughts.

yep, its his surgery too, so he owns me

[kronas]

Originally Posted by M_A_A_B

I dont think the DWP can affect anything to do with your GP....sounds like he's making excuses....definetly change your GP....you should be entitled to do this as someone above said, write to the senior partner.

as stated its his surgery, the other GP was about to write me a sicknote then read something on my notes and said 'DHSS stopped your sicknote i cant give you one'

Originally Posted by M_A_A_B

Can you not submit a new claim for incapacity benefit? Surely they would then have to look at the claim afresh and take in to account how your condition has become worse...

i can, but STILL NEED a sicknote....therein lies the problem.

Originally Posted by M_A_A_B

have you applied for DLA??

nope, im not aware of the requirements.

Originally Posted by M_A_A_B

Also...just wondering why you're on JSA and not income support??? Surely if you're ill then you cant seek employment....

what user 'breadline' said its true.

[M_A_A_B]

Ok....I really think you need to have a good chat with your GP.....if your GP doesnt think you are able to work then I dont see how the DHSS can stop your sick notes...

Maybe you should find out about applying for DLA because if you get that then they might take your claim for incapacity benfit a bit more seriously.

If you made a frsh claim for incapacity benefit then surely your doctor could write you a fresh sick note that would be valid....I dont see how that could be blocked if it is for a brand new claim.....

Maybe you should go and see someone like CAB to get advice

[breadline]

Doctors are told what is acceptable to be carried out, form sick notes to illnesses, even if there is much proof and the doctor knows his thoughts are correct, he has no choice but to stay with in the guidelines of the country he works in.

The fact the GP owns the surgery means he is not about to risk having his income cut off by challenging his restrictions.

If doctors can't diagnose illnesses, for this reason they certainly won't be concerned about a sick note.


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