Asked the question and had this back. Hi Mike, thanks for your email. The parking company call it a charge, TCH call it a fine. Should you wish to dispute the terminology, you need to take it up directly with them. We cannot get involved in the merits of individual cases. Also, I can't offer any further assistance on the matter, and would request that should you require any further clarification on the organisation's position, please liaise directly with the HR team. Regards

Just had this reply from them Hi Mike, thanks for your email. I’ve discussed the matter with HR who advise that as the fine has been incurred and recharged to the organisation, the organisation’s position is that the fine is rechargeable to the staff member the vehicle is leased to. Therefore, the recharge will be processed in the next available pay run – which will be November 2014, in full, unless you wish to elect to pay by instalment of up to 3 months. Please advise by Friday 10 October if you wish to take this option. I would also like to reiterate as per original letter, that ------- has no involvement whatsoever in the issuing of charges, or the merits of individual cases in relation to motoring offences and purely recovers any amounts recharged to it from the employee concerned. Regards

Driver has not been named, all correspondence has been as the RK

Just had this response from DRP Thank you for your email regarding the above Parking Charge Notice (PCN). As per the British Parking Association’s (BPA) Code of Practice, Point 22.7, the time to challenge the charge has now expired and therefore access to the Independent Appeals Service (if applicable) is no longer available. However, in order to resolve this matter, I will offer the following comments as to why this PCN was correctly issued and is still payable. My findings The site in question is subject to terms and conditions, which are stated on signs throughout the area. Those signs state that drivers must clearly display a valid parking permit for the site. They also warn that failure to do so may result in the issue of a PCN. On the date in question the vehicle was parked on the site but no valid permit was clearly displayed. This means that the terms and conditions were breached and a PCN was correctly and legitimately issued. I have attached photographic evidence for your own reference along with an example of the signage. Amount charged If you refer to the British Parking Association’s code of practice, you will discover that the sum in question is within what this body deems reasonable. I would also draw your attention to the ruling made in Parking Eye Ltd v Beavis and Wardley [2014] where it was ruled that the charges incurred were enforceable. Fairness and consistency I appreciate that you may be a permit holder; however it is the permit holders responsibility to ensure their permit is displayed at all times and, in the interests of fairness to all motorists, our company must adopt a consistent approach when enforcing Parking Charge Notices and therefore I am unable to cancel the PCN. Harassment Harassment has also been referred to and therefore I feel obliged to point out that under S1(3)© of The Harassment Act 1997, a course of conduct that someone alleges to be harassment will not be deemed so if the person who pursued it shows that in the particular circumstances the pursuit of the course of conduct was reasonable. Under the circumstances our course of action has been entirely reasonable and in no way reaches the high threshold of harassment. Our company has legitimately pursued recompense for a breach of the terms and conditions attached to our client’s site. What you need to do now Please ensure that £160.00 is paid by 16th October 2014. Payment can be made online or by phone. Go to http://www.debtrecoveryplus.co.uk/pay or phone 0844 561 0965. You can find full details of how to pay on the reverse of the letter(s) sent. What will happen if you do not pay what you owe If the amount is not paid by the date shown above, we will recommend to our client that court action be taken by them to recover the outstanding balance. If you do not intend to pay by the deadline, I draw your attention to the following important court ‘test’ case where judgment was entered for a parking company when the charge was disputed on multiple grounds. The senior judge found completely in the parking company’s favour: ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis & Wardley [2014]. A transcript of the case can be found at http://www.debtrecoveryplus.co.uk/debtor/judge.php. What if you do not agree Although any correspondence that does not provide further evidence will be noted and retained, I cannot guarantee that we will reply to it. Kind Regards. Susan Quinn Collections Manager Debt Recovery Plus Ltd P.O. Box 411 Dukinfield SK14 9DD http://www.debtrecoveryplus.co.uk T: 0844 561 0965 F: 0161 339 5722

Brilliant. Could someone help me with a rough idea of points I need to include in my letter to my company please? Cheers

That's what I was thinking. Can anyone else back this up? I'm struggling to find somewhere that actually defines 'road traffic offence'

It would seem we are a nightmare as a pair haha. I've got the contract I've entered with work here, the part they have referred me to is as follows. 6 Other sums chargeable to you; 6.1 Under the agreement you authorise ----- group to deduct from your net salary any sums paid by us to the leasing company iv - fines for road traffic offences and any administration charges levied by the leasing company (currently £25 per incident)

I appealed to UKPC using the advice given by the other users and they eventually dropped it. The rk is her mum. 1 initial NTK then a final reminder, then one from DRp for £160 and now a new one from DRp which I'm yet to see as it's it arrived yesterday at her house.

hi everyone. just an update on this. i appealed to care parking via post and expected that was the end of it as i haven't heard back from them. today I've received a letter from the company i work for with a recharge. Care have posted a charge to TCH leasing who automatically pay charges(they keep calling it a fine) without consulting the lease holder. they then direct debit my company who i lease the car through via a salary sacrifice. Then the company try to deduct it out of my wages. where do i stand on this? the way i see it Care have seen that the car is leased through tch and know that they automatically just pay up so it was best for them to just ignore my letter and contact them directly. thanks everyone!

hi everyone, I've received some smashing advice here before and would like some more help from you guys if possible! my girlfriend has parked in her pre paid monthly space and her permit has fell off the dash ukpc have gave her a ticket. for some reason the letters have just piled up at her parents house until now. last time i dealt with this promptly by asking for their pre estimate of loss and a popla code etc but now this one is past that stage. It has now been passed to DRP Debt Recovery Plus ltd demanding £160! where do i go from here? i can't use the ukpc website to appeal as it says its been passed on. who do i contact and what do i say? kind regards! Michael

hi, thanks for the quick replys. i dont know if waiting out for a notice to keeper will be the right thing do, my car is a lease car so im not sure if it will come to me or go to the leasing company. anyone had any experience with this? also could someone help me with the wording of my appeal and main points to include? thanks.

Hi all, the gym I go shares it's car park with some local shops and a play school. Upon arriving today the car park was jam packed as you would expect on a Saturday afternoon. As usual the 10 disabled parking bays outside the gym were empty and I wasn't prepared to go and find parking elsewhere in the rain then walk back up the ramp as car park is on the top of the building. I've parked in a private space designated for disabled badge holders only without displaying a valid blue badge. As far as I'm aware disabled bays in private car parks are not enforceable under the blue badge scheme? All help will be appreciated! Kind regards Michael

Hi, thanks for the prompt response. I thought it would surely be better to appeal prior to the 28 days and get it over with than drag it out or is it possible for me to shoot myself in the foot by contacting them?

Hi everyone, my girlfriend has recently received a ticket on her windscreen from UKPC. She parks in a privately owned car park every day for work which she pays for monthly and has a little card with her reg on to display on he dashboard. When she saw the ticked she has realised that her card had blown off the dash onto the floor. All advise will be much appreciated. Kind regards