OokMcKook
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well just spent all morning on the phone and they still haven't even processed it at the payment center due to "delays" It really then makes you wonder how many others are in the same position as me with sanctions removed stuck waiting for it to be sorted out.
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You have pretty much confirmed what the guy in the C.A.B said. Already contacted my mp and have started an official complaint as from whats been said by a division head (Who the CAB agent knew personally and called) I should never have been sanctioned for 4 weeks as i have no prior sanctions AND given my reconsideration was misplaced on site the reconsideration should have been dealt with and the sanction removed before it even started Given my reconsideration was signed in on the 31st of may and my sanction started the 20th june. The scary thing is that you guys on here are all far more knowledgeable than the staff I have encountered in the job center. Its something when they are releasing qualified staff in favour of cheap staff , Why not scrap the millions/billions being wasted on work programmes and rehire the staff who could do a better job inhouse and would be far cheaper.
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Thanks for the advice guys , Citizens advice payed happy hell with them and a payment for £63 was issued to "tide me over" funny thing is the counter payment was made by the same agent who said nothing could be done so i must wait. It is of concern really that some staff are either unaware or unwilling to provide any support even after a sanction has been lifted. You get sanctioned at the drop of a hat , You are expected to continue job seeking BUT you have no finances to do so. and then when they miss-place a letter in the dwp sorting office your still held semi to account. Luckily for me I had 2 interviews today for jobs and both were more than polite to re-book them for me after I explained my situation
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Thanks for the advice, I tried but have been told by the jobcenter that its not possible untill my details are corrected on the system.... They are saying im looking at a week today/monday untill i get anything and have advised I seek aid , But got booked in for citizens advice appointment at 3 as when i popped in they said this shoould be resolved as its officially reversed and refusing money still is fringing on illegal/incompetant given all the details of the case.
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Well further informed is now the reconsideration dated the 31st of may will be accepted due to an error in the dwp sorting office , And due to the error a decision was made prior to calling me 25 mins ago that my sanction is to be removed. When asked about money/help as ive gone 4 weeks with no support/no cash bar the few quid my brother was able to send me I've been told it may take up to a week to get my claim back on the system and i will not be allowed a crisis loan..... Great news its been removed , But another week waiting and living without electric/gas and eating cheapie tesco's reduced price pasties etc (As in the stuff thats reduced to 5p at the end of the night when its semi stale)
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Date stamp on it was the 31st of may. Spent nearly an hour arguing that it had been sent in and the fact was they made the mistake placing it in the wrong location. So it will be looked at further and they have promised to call me back by 10am. So all i Can do now is hope.
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Well a further update , They have found my reconsideration letter But are now saying it cannot be used due to being out of date dated 27 may , It seems like i am being kept sitting around in the dark
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The website is pretty false. The courses they run require you to already be in work or to sign off (I already asked as Im a qualified Technician , and am a few units short of being able to complete my pgce But nope no help to finish that off and get a job , and no time off from the work "experience" to attend a part time college course) The referal has the Jobcenter looking confused But from what was said they think the moneys from when you are referring a person who's in work to the for some overpriced "training" which they then take up. It does make you laugh that they do very little to help people get jobs , and in fact harm peoples ability to job search compared to the old "job clubs" that i attended fresh out of uni who actually helped and gave advice. Currently reading some info from citizens advice where they say in the last 2 years they have seen a nearly 465% increase in sanctions with the ill and less benefit savvy being the primary targets. It seems very much that they will justify forcing you to spend upwards of £60 of £71 jsa on interviews and if you do not comply they can and will sanction you again.
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Well just had some rather unique info from the south west wales district manager which has appaled me to say the least, My initial reply (where they ask me to fill my reason in on the back of it) was not recieved on time EVEN THOUGH they posted It On the 1st of just requiring it back by the 8th they "forgot" about the double bank holiday delaying mail. Then my Request for reconsideration was recieved into the office on the 28th June but has been "misplaced" and the one the work providers "sent" in for me theres no record of it. So just phoned up and got an asian sounding woman telling me the regional manager is a liar and the fact I Have the decision makers number they called me from a "coincidence". Best of it , I have been threatened that if i don't attend an interview I have arranged on friday I will be further sanctions ( Jobs 9-5 so its great hours) But I have no gas , no electric and no money so how am i supposed to attend it lol (The company have been nice enough to let me rebook the interview but a jobsworth withing the jobcenter is playing happy hell over it and that i dont have a "valid" reason.
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Yet you spam without reading , or did you miss the part where i specified I WAS FORCED TO SELL MY PUSH BIKE TO MEET WORK PLACEMENT COSTS NOT COVERED BY THE PROVIDER....... in addition Aberdare/Merthyr are the nearest major towns , Both are a hefty journey of around 3 miles mostly on unlit roads with no footpaths. Bus's ...... from where i live 8am-7pm (and i have about a mile walk to the stop) , To get to Cardiff from Aberdare means you need to be at the station for 6.20 am but the first bus wont get you there till catching the 7:50 train (there are NO push bike facility's all you can do is chain your bike up and pray, The amount of slashed tires and stolen parts i had to replace prior being FORCED TO SELL THE BIKE was horrific) Valleys transport has been acknowledged as poor With Idiot Duncan Smith even conceding that due to a lack of facilitys in the region push bikes are not too useful ( You say in the 60's / 70 when 1: The roads WERE miles safer , 2: Most bus/train stations had bike racks , 3: Allowances were made for being sweaty unlike now where your expected to be pristine ) So where do you lock a pushbike up , No bike Racks and a bus/train station that's full of junkies/kids with cheap cider , Or a towncenter where the risks like 100x more. Oh thats right you can cycle the 20-30 miles to cardiff in this lovely weather and up some major hills , And still be "Work presentable"
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Unfortunately you clearly have no idea of this are , Personally I have had to sell my pushbike to meet the costs of my workplacement's transport cost's. BUt in areas like this pushbikes really are not that much of a valid idea as yeah its great and easy getting 3 miles just to the train station that has ZERO bike facilities but to get home? a mile and a bit ride (as cant cut over the field) and near a mile UPHILL ride that i used to have to walk. And the advice is laughable back in the 60's a pushbike was safe transport due to a lack of people on the roads and defo lack of the "boy racer" brigade faced by todays cyclists who are required to also by all manner of safety gear and lights and face a far more dangerous road system.
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But the provider are doing nothing. I send of more cvs and applications then jobs they find for me . (I say find thats laughable i get given a pile of mostly useless jobs to read through) and If i get a job off my own back with no support or if they dont shape up im determined to take it further as they don't deserve money if I get a job at my own cost and work.
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Nope the only record they have was that they changed my appointment from the tuesday and gave me one FOUR weeks later. Got my appeal form sent now downloaded , filled in and sent (luckily had a free post Jobcenter envelope!) Also questioned that if it was ok for me to attend the christening in london why am i being penalised for a car breakdown even though I have the AA callout Report confirming the breakdown and issues. Speaking to the provider they were very apologetic and seemed confused that the sanction would have stuck for the sheer bad luck of a breakdown. I have spoken to a decision maker who phoned up during while i was typing this reply and they have said it will not be reconsidered as i didnt make adequate effort to attend. But acknowledge that i was told it was ok by the staff but apparently they have no right to do so.
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I Live in an area called LLwycoed, Nearest trains station is just under a 3 mile from my door walk unless i walk down the road (no lights no footpath) in which case its a little over a mile and a half to the aberdare station. Its an area where the work provider complains BECAUSE nearly 90% of the unemployed in the area don't drive and cardiff/newport are always screaming for staff. Yet recently the areas seen transport cut back repeatedly. They don't record call's , in all honesty its a grotty little makeshift office that was previously a cafe. And even if they say its ok they are required to tell the jobcenter anytime they rebook. But it just gets me how the jobcenter can lie and have no comeback for providing false info , let alone decide to sanction you for that misinformation on your first ever missed appointment and thats only missed because of bad luck on a breakdown. Worst of it no gas , jobcenters advice "sit in the library" , No food "find a soup kitchen". Family offers to come pick me up and let me stay with them , nope work provider wont rearrange appointments. The sooner I can get a job and tell them where to go the better.
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Well I'm on here seeking advice given thet the jobcenter and TBG(workprog provider) both keep playing pass the parcel. I Have been unemployed for 3 years in an area with little to no public transport matching the local city work hours (most jobs in cardiff are 6am-11pm shifts for callcenter and shops) Now recently I attended a christening in london for my niece my brother came to wales to collect me and would be bringing me home , I asked at the jobcenter and was told this would be ok. Unfortunately my brothers car broke down meaning he was unable to get me home until the tuesday instead of the monday , I contacted TBG who said it was ok and they would re-book. However then On the 27th of June I recieved a letter dated the 13th June telling me i would be sanctioned for "not making sufficient effort" which was after my housing benefit had been suspended due to no evidence . Bearing in mind that the same work provider forced me into 4 weeks unpaid "Work experience" and refused to refund the transport costs or clothing costs. meaning any savings i had have been wasted. I Have been told by the jobcenter that its nothing to do with them and issues must be taken to TBG , I go to TBG and the refuse any help saying I need Forms from the Jobcenter (got the forms and filled in) Yet Trying to apply for hardship or crisis loans see me treated like the ball in ping pong with TBG passing me to the jobcenter , The Jobcenter telling me to phone up , And The phone jobcenter staff telling me to return to tbg.
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