If they overpaid you they would soon be on your back, do the same to them. Kick off and tell um you want your money back ASAP!!

Also, If the Tories expect people to pay tax for a spare bedroom - then why don't THEY pay an extra £X amount for the 20 other unoccupied bedrooms in THEIR grand mansions or second homes. Fairs fair, right?! Oh i forgot, there not poor and not on benefits because there fiddling, thieving and cheating the system and grinding everyone down until they take every last penny from us and see us in the gutter.!!

This is the first of many of what we know but to say it happened a week ago, I haven't heard anything on TV news about it? I might be wrong and just wondering if gagging orders might have been issued?

Record everything on your phone when in the assessment as the person assessing you do tend to over exaggerate or in real terms lie and make your appeal more difficult..!!

It will be interesting to see who will be queuing because if its anything like Asda at the reduced section then i dont think i've got a chance..?

What annoys me Oblivious is i no how hard it is to bring kids up when you have nothing to live on, i have been there and no what it feels like, i've brought 2 kids up on my own and not known where the next penny is going to come from and scrap every last penny to buy a loaf of bread just to give the kids some toast and had to steal potatoes out of peoples vegetable plot to make some chips for the kids just to survive because i had no one to turn to for help.. yes it were hard and god knows how i got through it but i did, but i get wound up when people dont understand how tough it is and they think its easy to live when you have no other means of money when you have a child to look after as well.! I wish you and your child all the luck and hope you get something sorted out real quick.. !

Think you might be a little bit out of touch Nystagmite as i am also on prepay meters for gas and electric the same as Oblivious and have to pay water rates every week as i have a water meter so at this time of year before i pay anything out i have to pay between 30/35 pound a week on gas, electric and water and pay even more in winter so i can understand where where Oblivious is coming from.!

I brought the child into it because of the simple fact is she as a child to look after and do you think that the tax credits and child benefit will keep her and her child for two weeks when she as rent, gas electric, water rates and whatever else she as to pay out a week let alone FOOD to buy then if you think she can manage to get by on that then i would like to no what planet you are on and what she would gets on tax credits and child benefit she would spend that alone on gas and electric just to keep them with light and heat.. so yes.. that's why i brought the child into it..!!! And i'm disgusted with it because its alight people talking and thinking its easy living in this day and age and you thinking she can get by on the pittance she would get on tax credits and child benefits and as she as had her benefit sanctioned she wouldn't get tax credit anyway and if that were the case she would only have £20.30 child benefit a week for her and her child to live on..!!

I just cannot understand the law that they have the right to stop peoples benefits and leave them destitute and in debt and especially more so in your care with you having a child? I no its hard to bring your human rights into it and the law is the law but the more people who go down different routes and complain in stead of just excepting it then it could get highlighted to show how people are been bullied, intimidated and treated like a animal. I would advise everyone to complain to there MP, downing street, solicitors, CAB and even write or fax European Court of Human Rights. People have nothing else to lose so why not..! Glad you have got something anyway..!

How on earth can they do that..? Is your human rights been affected here as it says in "Article 3: Prohibition of Torture" that the government should not withhold state support from asylum seekers because doing this would leave them destitute (penniless). Now i'm no expert on the human rights act but if the government wont sanction asylum seekers benefits then why should they do that to you and especially you have a child? You are going to be 2 weeks in debt as well with the rent, plus you will have to borrow till you get your money sorted and you dont no when thats going to be..! i can't beleive they can do this type of thing. I would try alsorts, i would get in touch with my local MP, email downing street and i would go as far as getting in touch with the european courts, yes i no they cannot do anything but i would still do it and get as loads more people from this site to write or fax them with issues about the same thing because they just cannot treat people like this.. its all wrong and i'm fuming.!! Two people last week as been thrown off ESA, one is as blind as a bat and suffers with angina and depression and the other is autistic and doesn't understand a word anyone says to him and cannot speak a word himself, and both need carers.! yes they are appealing but that's not the point.. this type of thing should not happen..!! Get in touch with everyone you can think of oblivious cos you have nothing to lose cos you've lost it all anyway..! European Court of Human Rights Council of Europe 67075 Strasbourg Cedex France Tel : +33 (0)3 88 41 20 18 Fax : +33 (0)3 88 41 27 30

Why are you getting sanctioned?

Well now you've explained it like that then yes it makes sense and basically no matter what she says she is going to have to take it on the chin and pay what she owes.. simple..!

I find it quite easy to grasp as I'm talking about the first time when she said "1 stop later the ticket man came and checked my card, and i had 40p less then the price" So when i said "WOW....! all this over 40p." she is already been taken to magistrates court for the amount of been 40p short so to me all these hundreds of pounds thats going to be spent taking her to court over 40p then yes, i'm sure they is a better way to recover the debt and incur a small fine rather than going through all that.? In the second paragraph she got caught over a UNPAID FARE but i were not on about that so no need to dis me man..!!

WOW....! all this over 40p.? and for that reason.. i'm out.!

Let me get this right..! you have been issued with a court summons to appear before a court of law over 40p? and they wanted you to pay a £250 out of court settlement they wish to claim for you been 40p under the fare? is it 40 pence or 40 pounds? as i find this hard to believe that you could actually be served with a summons to appear in a magistrates court because as i see it, its not a criminal offence its a civil offence and if you have a summons it must be for a small claims court? how much all together on both times were you short and on the summons does it say magistrates court or county court?