There is no glossing over, there are further traffic lights just ahead which you can't see. From our entry point passing the temporary traffic lights for our lane you don't know if you'll clear the works before the lights ahead change and you can't see them anyway from our vantage point. We were last in a long queue of cars. The temporary lights change just before we clear the works and the cycle moves off and the car starts to come into our lane. Due to traffic lights in both directions there was usually bottle neck in the vicinity of the works as cars couldn't get past the works before the lights ahead changed. I wasn't driving by the way but I was a passenger in the car. I'm not 100% why he moved into the bus lane, if it was just following the van in fronts positioning or because there's a bus leaning into his lane which you can see in the video but not the stills. Unfortunately as it was so long ago I don't have dash cam footage anymore either to check.

Mine is the red car, hopefully you can view the photos. 2 pixs im the red car.pdf

I don't know how to blur out my registration number so won't be uploading the video anywhere. Still trying to figure out how to upload the stills though

Hi all, once again I need help from you lovely people. We got a pcn for being in a bus lane momentarily due to road works on opposite side of the road. You had to kind of give way to oncoming traffic which forced you into the bus lane. In the video footage you can see the cars start moving from opposite side but also that our car once past the hazard starts to manoeuvre out of the bus lane again. Contravention happened on barking road junction with Bartle avenue in Newham. I'm wondering how many people got fined during the road works. The bus lane should have been not in use as its unsafe to stay in your lane with cars pushing into your lane due to the road works. I'm not sure how to share the stills though will try and work that out. I'm definitely appealing but not sure how to word this. There's a lane for oncoming traffic, my lane and then bus lane to my left. The works were in the lane of oncoming traffic and they had temporary traffic lights. As we were passing the works the lights changed so the oncoming cars started to move forward into our lane. To keep a safe distance from the oncoming cars we had to manoeuvre to the left causing us to enter the bus lane. There was a large van in front of us so as our visibility was slightly obscured we couldn't tell how much avoidance was needed to clear oncoming traffic. But as soon as it was safe to do so we were back in our lane. We did not continue in the bus lane. Any help would be appreciated.

Does the 60 day rule still apply, I remember in the past my local council have waived pcns when they didn't respond to the informal appeal within 60 days and this is now about 80 days since appealing which was done online.

I only recieved the pcn which was stuck to the windscreen and now something which says charge certificate at the top

There's no further contact details on the new letter it just gives you payment info for the fine. I'm not sure how to contact them anymore.

Can anyone please help at all?

Hoping for a little help please On 15th of march I Parked on Cranbrook Rd in Ilford in a bay which spits out 60 minutes free parking ticket from the machine, I put that in the car between 17:30 to 18:30 I got the pcn at 18:23 and it says parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours. I appealed within 14 days and this was on the 16th or march and today I got a charge certificate. I've had no response to my initial appeal, I have a screen shot to show that I appealed on the website. How can I challenge this? I've also now realised that the ticket was correctly issued as it had a restriction between 4pm to 7pm but the photo of the board online was so unclear you couldn't read it. And when I went to the machine it didn't state anything of the sort just says charges apply Monday to Saturday 8:30am to 6:30pm Is there anyway to appeal this further or get it back to the initial £55? I don't understand why I never had a response to the initial appeal as had they explained it to me I would have paid but until now I couldn't understand why I got a pcn until a family member went on Google maps and found the board and explained it to me. I've added photos of the signage and the meter for you to see, I would really appreciate any help thank you. Doc1.pdf Meter photo.pdf

No it was just a simple template letter. My friend has called the council up and they have said if he pays by the 10th june he can still pay the reduced rate so hes going to do that as he does not want to persue this further. Thank you everyone for your help and support

The NTO is dated 12th june we got it a few days later due to post. Our appeal was sent on the 17th may signed for. Upon checking tracking you can see it was finally delivered on the 8th may. I called royal mail and they said thuis may be because it was delivered to a PO box and a card would have been left informing them that they have a signed for item and that it would have only been delivered after the PO box owner's (hackney council) got in touch. I hope that makes sense. I will wait for your reply as i have no knowledge in this area and you've always been really helpful in the past for me. Thank you

yes you're correct pcn received 9th may we sent the appeal on the 17th may NTO received 12th june NOR received 27th june after checking royal mail tracking it turns out hackney didn't pick up the mail until 8th june i have been seeking advice from pepipoo and they have written the following appeal for me which i was just about to send off. Grounds of representation: Procedural impropriety Penalty exceeded the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case Procedural impropriety I refer the authority to the PCN dated 09/05/2018 I also refer you to the date of my challenge 15/05/2018, the date of issue of the NTO 12/06/2018 and the date of your letter which you refer to as a Notice of Rejection 27/06/2018. My initial reps having been sent first-class and correctly addressed (see enclosed) were deemed served on the authority 2 working days after posting unless you can prove the contrary. In the absence of such proof, service on 19/05/2018 is presumed. This was 25 days before the issue date of the NTO. Your letter dated 27/06/2018 refers to my initial challenge in the following vague terms: ‘Thank you for writing to us.’ I refer the authority to regulations 4 and 5 of the Appeals Regulations the relevant combined effect of which is, unsurprisingly, that an authority may only serve a Notice of Rejection of Representations after they have received representations against a NTO. The authority were served with my representations against the PCN (often and hereinafter referred to as a challenge) on 19/05/2018. At no time were you in receipt of representations against the NTO. Your letter tried to finesse this fundamental point by using a vague reference to ‘writing to us’ (it must surely be standard practice for the authority to refer to dates of letters in their correspondence given that the whole enforcement process is time-dependent). However, far from overcoming your difficulty, this only drew attention to your error.* You have committed a procedural impropriety and the PCN must be cancelled.* If you do not, then you must produce proof that you received representations after the NTO was served. In the event that you rely on my challenge dated 15/05/2018 as being representations then you are required to prove receipt after service of the NTO. This burden lies with you, not me.* Penalty exceeded the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case By virtue of the authority committing themselves to re-offer the discount in the event of a challenge being received within the 14-day period, you were obliged to do so. Your letter dated 27/06/2018 does not do so, therefore given that this was issued after the NTO, the NTO was demanding an unlawful penalty.*

Quick update hackney council seem to have messed up. We've only done 1 appeal and without acknowledging it they sent the NTO. We've now received a second letter saying that they've looked at our reps and that we still need to pay the fine at the higher rate of £130. This letter is dated after the NTO and they've used is as if its our reply to the NTO not the initial informal appeal. We've lost the discount because they've mixed things up. Do i have any chance of appealing and getting out back to the £65 or do i need to go to the ajudicator and appeal on procedural impropriety? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

I'm too thick to understand all that Also any idea why im not getting notifications when someone replies? I used to get an email but no longer seem to

The first sentence from my previous post is copied from the letter they sent. I'm sorry but i don't have the know how to attach pics I'm afraid.