Yes, yes, yes, do believe them they are so experienced in this stuff, it's what they do! Please worry no more. I did find something on the official crb website about them saying they don't disclose them but can't find the link now. Will have another look when I'm on my laptop not phone. Glad u enjoyed ur new job today! It is secure because you can now rest assured that it will defo not show up. Fpn are like second chances with a slap on the wrist in the form of a fine. Hope I've managed to give u enough reassurance that all will be fine x

I knew someone would have a comment like this on my last post and was wondering whether to type it or not when I wrote it earlier. Ur future employer doesn't know what u have done so it's up to u to tell them, the police don't go into details. I'm sure I'm not the only person to scale down what happens, besides was a £30 bottle of perfume even that big in the first place!!! Secondly, this has no reflection on my character. It proves I want to get my single mother on benefits stamp off my head, get a decent paying job and get off handouts! I think it shows desperation to work but no doubt u know think I am some awful person. Anyhow, I'm still doing my job and 100% commit to caring for my patients and love my job. A mistake from the past is not going to ruin my future. And fpn will not show up, talk to nakro who deals with this stuff all the time and read ur fpn it states it on the ticket. Rant over!

No worries. Please do ur best not to stress about it. It will be wasted stress besides u havn't even filled in the form yet! I know lying us wrong but just down scale what u tell them as they don't disclose all the details of what u stole, where and the value etc. U know it was wrong and have learnt ur lesson just like I have. Let us know how u get on with nakro tomorrow. I'm sure they'll say the same and ur not a bad mum! My ex (my daughters dad) is a copper and he agreed they shouldn't disclose, some police have convictions and work enforcing the law, go figure. None if us are perfect x

Your solicitor is wring. Contact nakro they are brilliant and deal with these things all the time, give them a call to confirm ur over worrying. Crb send a request out to ur local police force and it's up to them to disclose what they do and do not want to disclose. Sorry if I jumbled that bit up before. On the other hand I half heartedly told my employer about it before the check and said I excitement walked out with a magazine on the child seat of my trolley in tesco and wasn't believed it was a genuine mistake and was *just* given a fine to pay for being careless - very naughty of me but I needed the job, will never do it again and besides it was 3 years ago. It's not like ur a smack head selling urself for money and neglecting ur children. Temptation got the better if u and u made a mistake, everyone makes mistakes! Please don't worry, I know that's slot easier said than done tho. Xx Sorry just re read what u write. *wrong not wring and *accidentally not excitedly lol Also yes it was an enhanced one xx Sorry for all the typo errors I'm sending all this from my iPhone xx

Hi ya, I definitely know that it didn't show up on mine because I was sent a copy. I was also told this by a charity who help people with criminal convictions get back to work (can't remember there name now) they can disclose it but I was told that they are not meant to as it is not a conviction. I think they say about 2 out of 100 people have them disclosed by staff at crb office who don't realise they shouldn't disclose it or do it to be picky. My advise, don't tell them as it's not a conviction and it's nothing that reflects to you helping out with your daughter at school xx good luck!!

thanks for this ^ fpn did not show up, i start work next week and couldn't be happier! so no, it's very unlikely they will show, i was almost certain it would show as i'm working in the homes of vunerable adults but odviously they are there to give one off offenders a second chance, and my god am i glad to not have anything more serious, i will never be so stupid ever again!!

gosh i'm so sorry to hear this, I had no idea they could enforce this kind of thing. i would find ur nearest citizens advise bereau and they will speak to th CSA on your behalf to find a fair repayment plan. they have no right to make u homeless if u have kid's living with you surely!! speak to them asap, or maybe even find a solicitor, many will do a 30 min free consultation xxx

hi coniff, sorry for not making myself clear. i recieved an £80 penalty fine from the police, they took my details but I never went to the police station for dna or fingerprints. I paid the £80 and this is what I was concerned would show up on the advanced CRB check. Nakro told me this fine should not show up, and in 95% of CRB checks (including advanced) the CRB office do not declare it as it is not a fine to say you are guilty it is a fine to stop any further action being taken against you i.e court or cautions. It is not a conviction and it states this on the paperwork they give you. However, Debenhams did refer me to a RLP company and I was sent a letter ordering to pay £280 for the sake of trying to stupidly steal a bottle of perfume worth about £30!! I did pay both the RLP and fine. Does this clear up any confusion. I checked with Nakro again yesterday and spoke to a different person just to clarify I shouldn't disclose this fine and both people have now advised me not to. I've sent of 2 application for care work which went in the post this morning so I will see how it goes. I will update this thread with the outcome on the CRB!!

hi, thanks for ur advise, it does seem a very vague area these fpn, fortunately this is the only thing that should be on my record unles they include a speeding fine from about 5 years ago? i was going to declare it and explain myself but thought I would ask the CRB office first, they were the ones who told me to call Nacro and this is what the guy there told me. i think I will call again on monday morning, speak to someone else and see if they give the same advise. I would rather declare it first if it's going to show up anyway bu dont want to jepadise my chances of getting the job if it doesn't!! will keep the thread updated when get any more info

thanks, just to let you know i called nakro yeterday and they said it shouldn't show up, he advised me not to declare it and if it does show up explain myself then. he said 95% of the time the police dont include fpn on the advanced crb check x

Hi all, firstly I am very ashamed of this. About 3 years ago I was caught shoplifting from a Debenhams store. I admitted guilty, first time I ever felt I wanted to steal anything and to this day I still don't know what made me make such a stupid spare of the moment decision..... I was caught and I received a fine of £80 and paid debenhams about £280 in compensation which was way more than the item was worth!! since this I have grown up so much. I realised what was important in life and expensive perfume is definitely not one of them. I had a tough few years after loosing 5 pregnancies and I feel like a completely different person. I am now 23 (was 20 then) and I am applying for a job in care, visiting elderly people at home to help feed / dress / look after them. I am a great people person and very caring and really want this job however I am worried about this fine and if it will show on an advanced crb check? What will show up? Will it say '£80 fine' will it say 'shoplifting fine' or will it go into full details of what happened, where, when etc... I wasn't taken to police station and no finger prints were taken? I' unsure if I should declare it or not and if I do do you think it would effect my chances of getting the job? Please don't judge, I would never do anything so stupid again x

just to update you I went to CAB on monday. I got all my figures correct for childcare and explained to them what I had done and I wanted to put it right. The cab advisor called tax credits explained everything, they said my overpayment was £5100 not £7000 and because I called off my own back and wasn investigated or prompted by them it went in my favour massivly. I am paying off half the money next week and the rest in a payment plan, I am so relieved to have come clean and put this right. I feel I can relax and enjoy my children without thinking someone might come and take them and put me behind bar's!! Anyone who is claiming too much tax credits, call now before they find you, will be so much easier for you and the overpayment will just keep mounting up if not. The lady told the cab advisor they apprechiate honesty and understand why people do it as it has been a tough few years with the recession and as tax credits ask for no paper proof it kind of is an invitation to fraud....well my name is clean and I feel a milion times better, unfortunately my bank balance wont but I'd rather it be that way, at least my bank balance doesn't have 2 children to look after and sleepless nights to deal with lol

hi, i am in a similar postion to you. I had been claiming about £7000 too much in childcare over the last year. Payments were correct for about 2 months then dropped hours and childcare day's but didn't notify change in child care. This went on for 10 months! On friday I decided enough was enough, I wasnever caught or asked for details of childcare etc but I couldn't live with knowing what I had done. So I went to CAB admited everything, they called tax credits after I sorted my figures out and they were actually fine with it. The CAB advisor explained the more I put it off the more I felt I couldn't call and was falling into a dark hole of fraud I couldn't sleep, eat or even think straight. I'd look at my kid's and cry convinced I was going to prison. Basically I'm now awaiting a letter of overpayment, luckily I have half the money to pay back stright away the rest I'll have to skimp and save for the rest of the year to but right my wrong doing. Please jut speak to them, they already know you've done wong, they will just want you to sort it out asap and start paying it back. However, I will add that telling them false information is worse that not telling them a change of circumstances as you have purposely misled them, but honesty really is the best policy. The chance of being taken to court for this is quite small judging by the cases on here good luck xxx

im not sure how you qualify for legal aid? we were actually entitled to have h/b and council tax credit but nevr applied as I was wrongly claiming this money....we should of got around £400 a month for both so I was even more stupid not to sot this out earlier.....what kind of penalties are there? Im just worried about being parted from my kid's...... thanks for all ur advise on this

Hi, please be kind I'm new here and in a very low place. I have been claiming about £7000 too much in childcare payments from tax credits. My daughter did attened the nursery and still does but at no where near the cost I've been claiming for about a year.I never meant it to go this far and now I'm panacking. I kep putting it off a week, then another week then months I just kept thinking I could really need the money for that and have just kept doing it.....So I called tax credits yesterday to tell them I needed to end my daughters childcare and she finished yesterday which is a lie but I needed to put an end to the mess I've got myslf into I want to own up and of course repay but I'm so scared they'll prosecute, or I'll get a prison sentance or wont be able to see my kid's Do they ever take people children off them for this kind of thing....I'm petrified my kid's are both under 5 and are my world, they mean everything to me, I am a good mum just made a very silly decision on this matter!! So I was going to say I would try to repay as much as I could, hoping familoy can help me and I can repay family rather than HMRC. So if I call to confess what will happen? It all happened this tax year if that makes a difference? I've not slept all night, I look at my baby boy and burst out crying. I went on materity leave in sept and we were struggling so I never told them to change my childcare... Do u think I should wait till monday and speak to CAB....will they speak and explain to tax credits for me? Please help xxxx