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  1. Hi guys it's a long time ago and in the meantime i drove thousands of miles because of a job role change, I am a very stubborn person and justice means everything to me, but my case cost a lot of money and nearly my health and my family. In the end I bailed out an got £1200 from somewhwere and bought an engine, it takes a bit to step over your proud and take your loss but my quality of life is so much better, in my situation this is the best I could have done, I got a lot of help aspecially from Heliosuk and Sailor Sam, I might be able to pick the case up again, the only regret is the dealer got away with it, it just cost him £200 that he never asked back. I don't think that the consumers are that well protected, if I read all of these stories, aspecially with a clear mind there are a lot off people in sort of the same situation, medievil2003‎ and kimbo3899‎, don't let it ruin your live, I hope you nail the B's but don't let it go too far, otherwise fix the damn car and sell it so you get some money back, it's not worth your life.
  2. Hi guys it's a long time ago and in the meantime i drove thousands of miles because of a job role change, I am a very stubborn person and justice means everything to me, but my case cost a lot of money and nearly my health and my family. In the end I bailed out an got £1200 from somewhwere and bought an engine, it takes a bit to step over your proud and take your loss but my quality of life is so much better, in my situation this is the best I could have done, I got a lot of help aspecially from Heliosuk and Sailor Sam, I might be able to pick the case up again, the only regret is the dealer got away with it, it just cost him £200 that he never asked back. I don't think that the consumers are that well protected, if I read all of these stories, aspecially with a clear mind there are a lot off people in sort of the same situation, Midievil, don't let it ruin your live, I hope you nail the B's but don't let it go too far, otherwise fix the damn car and sell it so you get some money back, it's not worth your life.
  3. I bought a steal towing bar at Halfords, it cost about £30 but it is yours and works brilliantly, I keep it in the car for emergencies.
  4. Draft Trading standards Dear Madam or Sir, I am in a quite predicates situation. I bought a 2004 Renault Scenic from xxxxxxx, via an advertisement via auto trader. The dealer sold it to me as a perfectly good car, there was a problem with the side window mechanism and there was a crack in the front window, he fixed the window mechanism and said he did not have time to fix the front window but gave me a discount for that. A couple of days after I received the car we discovered that the high-pressure diesel pipes were covered in oil; we cleaned it and kept an eye on it. Sometimes the check injection light came on and then went of after a couple of seconds but further than that, the car was running fine. After 4 months when I was driving to work the car lost power and lots of smoke appeared out of the exhaust. I managed to get the car on the side of the road, the AA started the car and it was running irregular, they asked me where to tow the car and they advised me to tow it to Nation Wide Auto-centres. I contacted xxxxxxxxx, he said it is the turbo and he would come back to me. I received two phone numbers via a sms message on my phone, after dialling them they appeared to be from turbo refurbishment companies Nation wide gave me a report that the engine needed to be dismantled for further investigation and estimated the repair at £3400. I sent xxxxxxx several emails asking how we could resolve the situation and never got any answer back. With hiding my phone number I got him on the phone, he said he was driving but that he would call me back. That evening he called me back very irritated, I asked him what we could do about the situation and his reply was the turbo went and that is a wear and tear item like a flat tire I am not doing anything about it. I sent him more request and offers but he completely ignored me to solutions, I refused the car and the only option was court. I got letters from court requesting an independent investigation, I sent an email to the dealer on his business address, he did not reply on this. Just before the hearing I got a letter from court that they found this case suitable for mediation, I agreed with the mediation and they contacted the dealer but he refused again. At the day of the hearing the dealer hadn’t prepared at all and the judge reprimanded him for this and told him that in accordance to soga, (she citated this from a law book) he had to proof that the car was fit for purpose. She ordered an independent investigation based on mutual agreement and each of the party had to pay their half. After a while the dealer cam up with a garage and asked me to sent me the key, I asked the name and phone number of the company and got the name and phone number of a person when I did an internet search I found an internet site similar as from the dealer and refused this garage. In the end, I found a garage not far from my home that was able to do the investigation and we got a report that unfortunately showed no real cause of breakdown. It showed some damage that could not have been caused by the turbo failure. We were both asked to give our view of the investigation in a written report. I found a document given to me by the car dealer of an investigation of the check engine light with the advisory to change the inlet pressure sensor, I did this when the car was a week old but it did not make a change, the check engine light kept showing up now and then. Later I heard from a skilled technician that the check injection light pointed to an over pressurising turbo I managed to chase the former owner and found the EBay listing of the car, where the dealer the car bought from and this showed everything that was wrong with the car so the dealer knew from the beginning that there was something wrong with the car. I put all this information in a report and sent it to court. I went to the second session in court we had a different judge, he had a look at the report he stated that he didn’t knew anything about cars and couldn’t make up what went wrong with the car. He asked me if I could proof that, there was something wrong with the car when I bought it, I said I could not but that to my knowledge in accordance to Soga the dealer should proof the car was fit for purpose. After this, the Judge dismissed my claim and left me completely devastated. I picked myself up again and decided enough is enough and borrowed money and bought an engine and had it built in. But surely this in no justice at all. Therefore, the same dealer can rip of anybody he wants knowing when he keeps quiet about things that are wrong with the car he gets away with it. My disabled wife was not able to go out for months; she missed her father’s funeral, because the dealer refused any cooperation when we requested a car for this, I had to buy a cheap car to be able to take care of my family again; my kids missed their summer holiday, and probably this summer holiday again because I have to recuperate from the costs. Is there anything we can do to get at least the court costs back, if the dealer wouldn’t have refused contact at all, I would probably made a deal with him and paid part of it , he basically forced my to go to court. Kind regards xxxxxxx
  5. It's just a question on whether we all put our heads together (again) and formulate a case, or the OP consults trading standards to see what they think. Hi, what can trading standards do? I think I need to know if the document I got with the car showing the invoice of an investigation of the check injection light is enough for the defendant to get away with the situation. I think we can simplify the case. I have the eBay advertising how the dealer bought the car, that shows all the things that were wrong with it. We have the fact that he states he sold me a perfectly good car. We can make up from the advertising that he lied to me about the service, and that he reset the computer , and that he kept quiet about the major error. We know for a fact that he ignored me completely, this forced me to go to court. I failed to go back to him with the sometimes appearing check injection error which resulted in a turbo failure. In the independent Investigation they found more faults that couldn't be caused by the turbo failure. I haven't heard back from the dealer to get his half of the money of the independent investigation back, I also don't know what court wants, the only document I received is that my claim was dismissed. Is there anybody who can tell me based on these facts if there is a good to certain possibility that I can get my court costs back? At the moment I can't afford any solicitor, |I paid around £500 for court £200 for a rental car. My wife had to use the Taxi for shopping for the first 4 months, then I bought a car for £500 to be able to do things again and I spend £1300 to fix the car, I can just afford the diesel to go to work now. So it might be a possibility to get my court costs back. Therefore, if there is a Solicitor who wants to take this on on no win no fee basis he is welcome.
  6. It's a fact that I was forced to go to court it's also a fact the defendant knew exactly what he was selling and kept it quiet, it's also a fact he lied about the next service. he has reset the computer to lie about the service. So there might be a possibility to get the court costs back plus the money for a rental car I used to get some items we inherited from my father in law who passed away The repair has cost me £1322 from whitch I borrowed £1000
  7. Hi guys, Before I start anything, the case made me loose confidence in the legal system and I don't want to burn myself again, maybe Bankfodder can explain clearly to you what the bottleneck is. I have confidence in you guys but not in court. It was quite a sensation to be told by one judge that the defendant has to be carefull because he has to proof that the car was in a correct state, then you prepair your court case based on that and then you are wiped of the table with your own defence because they turn the case 180 degrees. In accordance to bankfodder the second judge was correct, I still don't understand why in my mind they completely ignored soga, but I am not a law expert so if anybody can make this clear to me I might be able to understand the situation better. I borrowed money and bought a second hand engine and the car drives like a dream again, so that stress is gone. The way I see it is that they said I had the proof in my hands by having a document that showed an investigation of the dreaded check injection error, and I ignored the error by not seeing the severity of this, this is why in the end the turbo seals gave way, and because of underlying damage there was more damage than only the turbo that would result in an expensive repair. So if Bankfodder is prepared to give a view of why he thinks this is a lost case to start again or to fight the decision , we can crystallise from there if it will be worth to fight or start a new case, but I don't want a whack in the face again, and my funds are now extremely limited. Some people on this forum are extremely kind and see an outcome for this situation and I have faith in a positive outcome I trust you and I believe you, and if we can make a defence without loopholes I will go for it. Thanks guys
  8. Hi guys What the statute of limitations is in regards appealing a county court decision?
  9. I got a letter from court saying the case is dismissed, do I still have to pay my half of the investigation back, nothing about this is mentioned?
  10. I was in your position, I gave up but kept my health, it very hard to get justice, and way to complicated, Just watch your health, I never thought I could let go to anything so unfair, but I can tell you although, I bumped my head I am quite releived that I quit the whole thing, health is un-replacable, a car is
  11. I ordered an engine, and they are going to place it in the car for me, I probably sorted the whole thing for around a 1000 pounds, and I wish I would have done that right away, I am so re-leaved since that court case is recent History. I didn't nail the dealer, but one of these days he will encounter a customer that is not as patient and friendly as me who will take revenge. So if you see Autosource online, be warned and stay miles away from that place.
  12. The difficulty is that the defendant gave me an invoice that came with the car, showing an investigation of the check injection warning that is sort of the main issue in this case, I discovered later that the invoice wasn't paid, the advised to change the inlet pressure sensor, I changed that sensor but this didn't cure the issue, this was also the reason why I changed the glow plugs, I read on the internet that often cured this issue. I didn't have the idea that this was a serious error later I heared from Heliosuk that this pointed to an overpressursed turbo, so that check injection was in the end catastrophic. Although the dealer didn't tell me about this and he was fully aware about all the problems, for the law he supplied me with the information although in court he admitted to not being aware of the fact that he gave me these documents, if I start the case again he will be prepared. I am fully aware of that all people who helped me did this to there best ability and with the best outcome in mind, but by a freak change of judges with completely different views of this case the dealer gets away with it, and BankFodder made me aware of this, he asked me for all papers from the court case and only if anybody has another approach that is completely safe I am willing to start another case, to be honest I am enjoying my life again and I am trying if it is possible for me to sort the car out so it is safe and completely drivable again.
  13. I know Sam but I was under the ilusion soga was a law and judges should obey the law I am still now very confused with the evidence there was that one judge literally quotes the soga from a law book and warns the defendant and the second judge just looks at the investigation and rules I am the claimant so I have to proof that the car had a fault, while my evidence and reports were based on what the fist judge said, I am imagining this can happen to any person, but I won't confuse this thread more I just wanted to say that it is not allways looks what it is, and what I went through wasn't even worth £10000,-- in my case just because a dodgy dealer.
  14. Hi Kimmy, Heliosuk hit the mail bang on the head, talk to ford and hope they help you in the end, I went down the soga path, and now lost most of my mony to court and still have a broken car that I am now going to try to fix for cheap, and cheap means at least a 1000, for a car I boughr for 3500, and we all tought I was going to win the case.
  15. Thanks Kimbo, just watch your back, this is the result of not having a solicitor, what proofs my point justice is a ritchmans game in this case no solicitor no win. It sounds stupide but I can finally live normal again, without snapping at my family, and having a bit of fun instead of full time following the court case. I took a week off and am going places with my kids I enjoy the weather. I just did a couple of stupid things that I shouldn't have done that gave the defendant amunition against me, the fact is he still ripped me of, I have proof he bought the car via ebay with the problems present.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Rob, This mail is regarding our conversation on the item description of this item (320479398561). Here's the item description: For sale is our 2004 Renault Scenic Diesel in Red with just under 63,000 miles on the clock. Lovely family car with a huge amount of space and comfortable to drive. This car is cheap to tax, insure and run giving you a very economical car. I have just bought my wife a new car so this one has to go. Good points: Over 50mpg (much more on longer runs) Air con Isofix child car seat fixings Body work is in great condition, no dents/scatches etc Large family sized car with a huge amount of boot space. Loads of storage pockets throughout the car e.g. underfoot and underseat Trays on the back of front seats All rear seats can be folded or removed Driver, passenger, side and rear curtain air bags 6 months Tax 5 months MOT Safety mirror for looking at kids in the back seats Body coloured bumpers Fully adjustable steering wheel with steering wheel stereo remote control Bad points: Crack in the bottom of the windscreen Drivers side window does not work, regulator needs repalcing - part on ebay costs around £30-£40 Service light error message reads 'top up oil' this was checked at our garage and the sensor needs replacing at the next service (in about 6,000miles) - part is £30 Another intermittant error message reads 'check injection' this has also been checked at our garage and the sensor on the air inlet needs replacing Few little bits of trim are missing e.g. front tow eye cover, one air vent scroll Not a full service history but got bits I have tried to describe this car as best as possible, good and bad, I hope I haven't missed anything but you are welcome to come and view/test drive the car. To arrange call XXX on XXXXXXXXXX or XXXXXXXXXXX. This car is sold as seen. You are bidding to buy not to view. Pick up only, cash on collection or paypal accepted. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the end it was not the sensor that needed replacing but over pressurisation off the turbo.
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