What I've done is to try engage with the residents and get them involved. As I said above, with 50%+ of the properties owned by absentee landlords, they don't give a toss. Of the remaining owner occupiers, the overwhelming majority don't care and can't be bothered with the hassle. The few tat do care are trying to do something but we need everyone to be engaged with the process, and despite repeated attempts to do that, they don't care. And I've complained to the owner of the factor company, who couldn't care less as long as they're getting paid. Didn't even bother to respond to my complaint which speaks volumes about their attitude. It seems that others have experienced a similar level of service from them http://m.topix.com/forum/city/edinburgh-in/TUS3HRSOL59C96N83

It's been going on for years and you've dragged the thread up from 5 months ago. You must have very little experience of property factors. They're all **** in my experience. Not as surprised as I was, though the police response of "it's a civil matter" seems to be standard for anything they can't be arsed getting involved in Most flats are owned by absentee landlords that don't give a toss as long as their rent is paid. The rest are apathetic. I've been happy enough with advice from here and Pepipoo. No need to cost myself money when I'm capable of fighting it. I did take advice from a solicitor, and then took it from there by myself A waste of time. They look after their own. Take this as an example: http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=78366 It's still on my list of options. The response from the factor has been worse than useless. The BPA are currently investigating P4 Parking for breach of their code of conduct. Once I get a response from that I may go after the factors too. I've issued the factors and P4 Parking with a notice before action to recover the money paid for parking tickets and to get them both banned from entering my land. Discussions around that are ongoing.

Why?

It's less of a faff than dealing with a car every time it parks on your land. Individual bollards are easy to install.

Don't bring in a PPC. Speaking from personal experience here http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?160624-Enforcing-parking-in-private-residents-parking-spaces

CROCDOC, do you have a link to this statement from the BPA. It would be very useful in a battle I'm having.

Aaaaaargh. The saga continues. I decided to play the game and put the P4 parking pass on display in my windscreen. For some bizarre reason I'm randomly getting tickets saying my permit is a photocopy, which it's not. I first got one ages ago but I never received anything from P4 parking. Stupidly I assumed the parking company were telling the property management company about any tickets that were issued and the property manager was telling them to cancel them. So last week I get an email from the company I lease my car from telling me they've got £700 worth of "fines" (their words, not mine) for the car from P4 parking and their "debt collectors". I told them not to pay a penny, and I would sort it out. I told them they weren't fines, they were invoices. I get another email saying it's now gone up to £900 and they've paid them and they'll be sending me an invoice! I've got on the phone to the property manager who was really helpful and he's going to sort it out for me, but it beggars belief that leasing companies will just blindly pay PPCs without even querying what's going on. I've torn them a new one for allowing them to mount up before they got in touch with me. They even claim to have a specialist "fines department", who don't sound too clued up on the realities of this [problem].

Well the Central Ticketing signs all over my street disappeared a few weeks ago. However my unbridled joy was shortlived when they were replaced a couple of weeks later by P4 Parking signs... The factors have kindly been in touch to let us know Central Ticketing have gone into liquidation. I can't help but feel enormous joy at this news. I look forward to P4's similar demise.

Hopefully this is the right forum to ask this but if not can someone point me in the right direction. Here's a brief run down of the saga... I live in a new build development which consists of two blocks of flats in a cul-de-sac. In total there are about 60-ish flats and 5 retail spaces. We're factored by a private company who take care of the communal areas of the development. Last month we received our quarterly bill from the factor and along with it was a letter stating several residents had not paid their bills and going forward the factors would send everyone in the development a list of the residents that hadn't paid along with the outstanding amounts. Yesterday we received the first such letter with maybe around 10 properties with outstanding bills. I can't remember the total off the top of my head but it meant that all the other residents are expected to pay an extra £135 each in order to cover this outstanding amount. The factors are highlighting a clause in our general deed of conditions that places joint and several liability on the residents therefore we're liable for the debts of those that aren't paying. A frustrating situation. However having been through my own dispute with the factors over bills in the past, they issued us with a summons from the small claims court. We were prepared to go to court and defend our position however they backed down at the last minute and conceded their bills were incorrect and it was all resolved before we got to court, where they would lose. Now I'm working on the assumption that they've also issued a small claims summons on these other bad debtors. My outstanding bill at the time was about £400, whereas one person in the current situation appears to owe about £3,000 so if they pursued me for much less then they must be doing the same on the others. Now they stated in the letter that they were unable to get any response from these bad debtors hence why they're passing it onto us. I expect they're trying to shame them into paying or getting the other residents to form a pitchfork mob and extract the money that way. However, assuming they've issued a small claim against them, heard nothing in response, the factors have then been to court and won because the defendant didn't turn up and the court finds in the factor's favour, can that debt be passed back to the other residents if the debtor still refuses to pay?

Before I go postal with the local council I thought I'd tap the fountain of CAG knowledge first. Just before the entrance to my street there is a layby with a bus stop in it. Buses could pull in, drop people off, pick people up, traffic could get past and everything was generally good. Now the bus stop has been removed from the layby and placed about 15 feet away from the entrance to my street. This now means that whenever a bus stops, traffic can't get past, and you cant enter or leave my street as the bus is blocking the entrance. I'm hoping someone knows the legalities of bus stops before I go off on one at the council. Surely it can't be legal to place a bus stop in such a way that the buses block access?

Legislation or not, Euro Car Parks are the mob at Silverburn and do they have any authority to enforce this new legislation?

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Excellent!

I've been having a think about this. The ruling in the bank charges case suggests to me that the Supreme Court has said that it's ok for a private company, in this case the banks, to levy penalty charges for breach of contract. That's basically what it boils down to. The bank charges in no way reflected the actual losses incurred by the bank when someone breached the contract by going overdrawn without authorisation etc. Therefore they are penalty charges. The supreme court have said these charges are fair. So this opens up the possibility of any private company charging penalties for breach of contract. Yes, no, maybe????

So were you using the phone while driving? Of course the police can come to your door. They'd have a hard job doing their work if they couldn't!