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Old 4th May 2006, 12:15   #1 (permalink)
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Well after reading these pages for about a month now I feel ready to take the plunge. Our new joint account with Alliance and Leicester is up and running so I spent last night totting up £1050.50 worth of HSBC charges over the last 5 years.

Looking forward to seeing how this goes!

I've printed off the preliminary letter and have also added my own little bit as this is something I feel quite strongly about:

In addition, the constant levying of excessive charges against my account has led to financial difficulty on many occasions, with several of these unlawful charges being incurred as a result of exceeding my overdraft limit purely due to the previous month’s charges being deducted. This has led to a cycle of charges from which it is extremely difficult to escape.

I'm sure no-one will read the letter anyway but I put it in Italics in the hope someone will notice it!

I gather that at this stage there should be no mention of interest, so my 'What I require' paragraph simply reads :

Since opening the account in October 2001, I calculate that you have taken £1050.50 from our account in the way of these charges.

Is that right, or should I have written something there about overdraft interest incurred as a result of the charges?

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Old 4th May 2006, 12:17   #2 (permalink)
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That is fine if you are not including overdraft interest...

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No, I think to be honest that it'll take me too long and be too complicated to try and work out what percentage of the interest I've been charged over those 5 years was levied on the bank charges!

Letter going in the post today, I'll let you all know what they say.

Do we generally recommend sending it recorded, or even better delivering it by hand?

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Good Luck!

Send it recorded delivery.
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Do we generally recommend sending it recorded, or even better delivering it by hand?
If you do deliver it by hand, still make sure you get a signed receipt, that acknowledges they have received the lettter. It has been known for hand delivered letters to disappear and later denied being received. There was one person here who when speaking to his branch manger about things and had the manager deny ever receiving such a letter. Fortunately the person had had it signed for and so produced the receipt. The manager went and found the letter. I think this is a true account of what happned. Can't recall who had the experience?

Much as I don't like to say this, as I generally do trust people, don't trust the banks.

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Well the letter went off recorded delivery last night so they should hopefully get it today or Monday.

Let the games begin!



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The letter has been delivered. Counting down the 14 days until letter number 2!
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Waiting for the bank not to read your preliminary letter, you might like to amuse yourself trying to calculate how much interest they have taken from you in respect of your unlawful charges over the previous five years. You may find it quite a surprising amount and you may decide that it is worth going for. There is no problem about adding the charges to your letter before action and then to your final claim. That kind of approach might teach the bank to take the opportunity of a reduced claim in the preliminary letter in future (although I doubt it).
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Thanks for the useful info - trouble is I wouldn't know how to go about differentiating between interest legitimately charged on my overdraft and interest charged on the fees, is there a simple way to calculate this?

Thanks again!

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Thanks for the useful info - trouble is I wouldn't know how to go about differentiating between interest legitimately charged on my overdraft and interest charged on the fees, is there a simple way to calculate this?
Simple answer is no. It is complicated and many people don't bother. You'd need to know the interest rate the bank was charging at the time. Unless you're claiming loads back the time spent wokring it all out may not be worth the effort?
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Well I received a letter this morning saying that they thank me for my enquiry and someone will be in touch soon, nice to know someone cares, eh?!

Letter before Action is printed and ready to send on Friday!!

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Surprise surprise - 14 days is up and no-one has been in touch!

LBA going off today...

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Well I must say I'm disappointed that no one's been in touch whatsoever after two lots of two weeks...

Still, I guess that means more money for me (interest can be added now I'm claiming right?!)

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Hi James,

I am nearly at the end of the first 14 days and not heard a word, sending off the second letter on the 6th. I sent the first letter by 1st class post so I guessed they wouldn't reply. I intend to send the second by recorded delivery. Out of interest did you send both of yours recorded?
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Hey guys,

I have just worked out all my charges and now want to send the preliminary letter. I have read through the FAQ's etc but an confused. What figures do I put in the letter and do I include the 8% interest charge in the preliminary letter?

After that letter has been sent, I guess they'll write to me saying they agree or they don't?

I've calcualted I'm owed just over £500, which I'm surprised at really as I thought it would be a bigger amount.

Any advise would be gratefully received.

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I have read through the FAQ's etc but an confused. What figures do I put in the letter and do I include the 8% interest charge in the preliminary letter?
If you had read through the FAQs thoroughly or even browsed around the forums you would know the answer. Almost all of your posts on this site have contained questions which are answered in the FAQs.

Please understand that this could ultimately end up in court, so it is really important you read through the FAQs thoroughly to understand what exactly you need to do.

Furthermore, you need to start your own threads for your own questions.
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OK, thanks for the info. I'm pretty new to all this forum stuff so ur advise is much appreciated!

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Hey, don't hijack my thread!!

Anyway, I spoke too soon - before I got the chance to file my claim I got home today to a letter from HSBC (Phil Beaumont) offering me £875 of the £1100 I'm owed...

Obviously I'm not going to take it but I'm guessing I need to send them a letter now stating that I don't accept it and will be pursuing the full amount. Is there a standard length of time to give them now before filing my claim on Moneyclaim?

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