Parking fines HELP!!!

infoplease · 12th October 2006, 16:49

Hello,

Would be grateful for any words of advice on this situation.
We moved house in February this year and a few weeks after I sent off, what I thought was, the change of address form to the DVLA.

Just over a week ago I received an envelope of post forwarded from our old address and within there were 8 or 9 letters informing that I hadn't paid a parking ticket etc etc.
I spoke to the council and told them that a) I had never seen the parking tickets and that this, truthfully, was the first I'd heard. Explained that everything had obviously gone to old address-they confirmed that the DVLA were giving them my old address.
I have since found out that 5 tickets "are with the bailiffs" and there are a couple more waiting to go. Hundreds of pounds worth.
The tickets are definitely for my car but not when I was driving it.

The chap I spoke to at the council informed me that I needed to speak to the court and make an "out of time declaration"-just received those forms this morning and will be sending them back to the court and tell them what happened (to be fair the council officer was a great help and very reasonable about the whole). I explained to the council that I obviously wasn't trying to avoid payment as I had called them and given them my correct details!!
I spoke to the DVLA-who were spectacularly unhelpful and abrasive-who told me that I'd sent them the wrong form "obviously" (described the form and apparently I sent the part of the log book I'm supposed to keep!!).

So, eventually-sorry for long post, my question. This is a large debt-£8/900 and I do not have anywhere near that amount of money. Do I have grounds to offer a repayment schedule that I can afford? And, based on anyboy elses experience are they likely to accept?

Thanks in advance. Would be very grateful for any responses as this is a huge concern for me.

falcon185 · 12th October 2006, 17:01

HI, although you may be the registered keeper of the car, you state you wasnt driving it at the time. Who was driving it is responsible for the fines not you. Have you received the actual tickets? check they have the two dates on them, there should be a date of alleged offence and a date of issue of the ticket, if they dont have both dates they are deemed void I beleive.

12th October 2006, 18:59

if they have not gone to bailiff yes they will and will give you a payment card if needed

rambo · 12th October 2006, 21:01

Make sure you file the late stat declaration and put in a letter explaining everything you have said here. Send the late stat dec by recorded and registared post.
When you have done this, phone the bailiff and tell them.
Wait to hear back from northampton county court and they will probably cancel the order for unpaid penalty charges, but not the original parking ticket(PCN).
If northampton cancel the order for unpaid penaly charge, you must then write to the council and ask for a copy of the original PCN and NTO.
Do not let the bailiffs into your house under any circumstances, they will give you all kinds of b*ll****, can I use your toilet/phone etc etc. If northampton cancel the order for unpaid penalty charges the bailiffs will stop calling.
I have had the same thing this week and have filed two late stat decs.
I have PM'd you my phone number, call me.

dragonlord002 · 14th October 2006, 03:52

just make a statratry deloration you never recived jack ****. for all the tickets

and they will have to turn back the clock and re isue the tickets.

at the original price and give you the oper tunity to pay or appeal as if you just recived them.

steve dunn · 14th October 2006, 20:46

checkout Neil Herron
do not let any bailiff into your house
i ,with Neil Herrons help have just turned my local council over on parking tickets to the tune of over 1 million pounds

dragonlord002 · 15th October 2006, 05:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve dunn

checkout Neil Herron
do not let any bailiff into your house
i ,with Neil Herrons help have just turned my local council over on parking tickets to the tune of over 1 million pounds

yes seconded neil herron is your guy.

MizzPiggy · 16th October 2006, 01:16

Hi,

Once the PE2 and PE3 forms which are the statutory notice and out of time declaration are submitted to Northampton County Court Bulk centre as advised on the form (suggest you fax them then make sure that they are processed... we do this so that you know it has been dealt with), the whole issue is suspended from Bailiff Action for 14 days. It is sent back to the council and freezes the Bailiffs charges and takes the fine back to its original state! So you won't have the huge debt that is currently there. You will then go through the process (as they all do...) that you will be sent information from the Court that the council has rejected your claim (dont worry this is quite normal...actually its just how it is), to which you can appeal their decision, or they will send an N244 form with the rejection notice from the Council.

This form allows you to pay the debt off at what you can afford. It is like an accepted payment plan really and is then sent back to the council for agreement. So far, in our experience we have not had one returned with rejection and so your payment plan begins. Remember...without the Bailiffs costs!!! you are back to the original fine amount. Don't offer what you can't afford is my only advice! if you are lucky, maybe they will in fact let you off?! Not heard of it yet, but good luck.

Any questions....let me know..hope this is clear...

Hope this helps....

Alison

MizzPiggy · 16th October 2006, 01:19

Just a quick note to Rambo...and anyone else..once you have gone through the process with the Forms....please from personal advice, do not phone the Bailiff till the council sends you confirmation of the forms being lodged. If you fax them over, phone and check they have them!! Then ask them, they are really helpful, for just a copy of something that says you have. (they have a standard letter) hold onto this in case the bailiff tries to return. It is a scary thought, but you are dealing with civil law, to which if he phones the Police, with a warrant, even though it is suspended from action, his piece of paper outways your not having one. So make sure you have the paper saying its received and processed, then phone him and gloat! Alison
P.S for anyone that wants these forms or advice on how to fill them out, they can be found on our website under bailiffs-traffic. Hope it all works out well.
Alison

infoplease · 17th October 2006, 10:37

Hello, thanks to everyone for their advice-it is very much appreciated.

I only read all your posts in the last ten minutes and I had already a) returned the out of time declaration to the court and b) sent a letter to the council (emailed it and also posting today) to confirm that I have done so and restating the facts of the case, i.e. my cousin incurred the charges, I never saw them, the DVLA confirmed that I had "sent the wrong part of the log book" to get my details changed (?!) and so I never received any reminders etc.
I also offered a repayment schedule to the council for the full amount (nearly £1000)—did I do anything wrong?

Thanks again

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