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Old 13th September 2006, 09:27   #1 (permalink)
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Default Police change the rules to prevent "legal loopholes"

Disgusting so to prevent people making sure that the law enforcement officers are doing their jobs properly they bring this in to stop people defending themselves

Basically they will have a team of people to prevent people using legal loopholes under the guise that if you try and are found guilty you will have to pay their costs of up to £4000

So basically they are using "costs" to prevent people legitimately defending themselves grrrrrrrrrr

BBC NEWS | UK | Police target driving 'loopholes'
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Old 13th September 2006, 12:35   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Police change the rules to prevent "legal loopholes"

I saw that and my first reaction, like yours, was if they cannot secure a conviction under statute, then blaming a 'loophole' is both a flawed and weak argument. I think this is PR puff, if a court lets you go because the action was in error or unjustified or better still incompetent, there's no way a second set of penalties can kick in. I've a feeling the first time this happens it'll be challenged in the courts, and the police wil lose.

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Default Re: Police change the rules to prevent "legal loopholes"

Lawyers try and use loopholes to get their clients off so what's the problem with the authorities taking action to ensure the loopholes are not there in the first place?
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Old 13th September 2006, 14:44   #4 (permalink)
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Exactly thats the point all they are doing is implementing a huge stick to beat ppl away with who are thinking about appealing their case so they think uh oh better just accept it and move on rather than hey thats not justice im going to fight. whats next guilty until proven innocent - oh sorry yeah thats already here!!!

Seriously unimpressed with this and I hope someone sues the crap out of them when they use it on a case
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Default Re: Police change the rules to prevent "legal loopholes"

And another thing to bear in mind:

Just because someone had a case thrown out on a technicality, that does not mean they would have been found guilty.

For example, if you get a speeding ticket, and you and your car were nowhere in the vicinity at the time of the offence, you may or may not be found guilty depending on whether you can convince the magistrates of the truth of your evidence.

But if the speeding ticket happens to be filled out incorrectly, you may as well use that basis for your defence too. If the court agrees the ticket is incorrect, you will not have to undergo the lottery of having the court decide if the facts were as you say.

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