Diesel 03 Mondeo - Flashing Glowplug Light

[chiefengineer]

Hello,

I have an 03 plate Deisel Ford Modeo (130Bhp Durotorq TDCi).

A while ago I was driving along when the glowplug light (the one that comes on until the glowplugs are warm, then goes out) started flashing.

I stopped, switched off, and started up again. All was fine.

Upon looking at the car handbook, I found no info on this, so I called Ford.

They had the car in for diagnostics (it was still under warranty) but found nothing. The problem has not occured since.

Anyone else had this problem?

Jeremy

[Brick Driver]

Have you tried changing the glow plug? It looks similar to a spark plug and will need replacing from time to time.

[chiefengineer]

The garage suggested this as the next step if the problem persisted. However, it has only occured the once.

Thanks for the reply.

Jeremy

[cleungs1]

had the same problem with my car a few week ago first time as I stop at the light the car completely lost power thought it just stalled on me but it started ok . the second time I was on the motorway doing 70 and it happen again took it to the dealer. and it was found that the timing was out of sequence it was fixed. had to take mine back on tuesday to check the EGR valve as the engine started to race while idle

if the glow plug is flashing it indicate that there is something wrong. however it might no show on the diagnostic if it happen again take it back to the dealer and ask to speak to a senior engineer if possible. the ECU (engine management unit)might need an upgrade or the EGR valve might need changing.

my car is a 53 plate and has done 49000 miles

[dutydruid]

watcha dude
just had a similar problem with my 03 mondeo turned out to be the CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR . fitted a new one problem solved. now the cost
are you sitting down

£ 14.05 inc vat from dealer


party on dudes

[paulydee]

I've just been through a similar experience with my '02 TDCi 130; started about 3 months ago with intermittent non-start & glow plug light flashing. Over the last week it became worse, with engine dieing whilst driving (always entertaining, especially at 70 miles/hr in lane 3 of motorway ) finally resulting in a complete non-start a couple of days ago.
Soonest i could get into a local Ford dealer was 6 days. Called RAC to get the car home, they diagnosed faulty cam position sensor and towed it back.

One cmp sensor later she's back up & running again! Definitely one of the easiest (& cheapest) things to check if it's not starting through lack of fuel being delivered. I was preparing myself for the horror of a full fuel system and/or ECU replacement i've read about on other sites regarding similar problems. Still disappointing for 4yrs / 48000 miles though.

[jasper1]

cam sensor faults will cause cutting out not just glow plug lamp flashing .if glow lamp flashes it puts a fault code in the pcm . it will take aprox 20 starts with on fault to clear on it own from pcm.

[chiefengineer]

Hi Jasper,

I presume that explains why Ford couldn't find a problem when they ran their diagnostics on the car. I'd started it more than 20 times!

Jeremy

[poona]

Hi guys,

Have any of you got this sorted as I have since last weekend been experiencing the same problems.

I rang Ford and they said it may be the CRANKSHAFT POSITION SENSOR but I have been investigating on the internet and have noticed there's also a camshaft position sensor aswell.

Which is it and can I fit it myself?

Diagnostics by Ford is gonna cost me £55+vat - i'm thinking NAH!!

extracted from a website...

Camshaft Position Sensor (CMP)

The CMP scans a reference cam on the camshaft. The CMP sends an alternating voltage signal to the PCM. This indicates the firing position of No1 cylinder. This is only used when starting starting. after that the (PIP) signal takes over to control the injectors.
Crankshaft Position Sensor (CKP)

The CKP sensor is also an inductive pulse generator, like the CMP which scans 36 minus 1 cast protrusions on the flywheel. Minus one means that one of the protrusions is missing. This missing protrusion is located at 90º before top dead center and is used by the powertrain control module as a reference mark for the crankshaft position. The crankshaft position sensor sends an alternating voltage signal to the powertrain control module, which is used to determine engine speed and ignition timing.

[jasper1]

the cam sensor is just above the inlet manifold in the middle has a grey plug 3 wires held in by one 8 or 10 mm bolt takes 5 mins to change. the crank senson is located down to back of the engine at the top of gearbox housing a pain to change hidden under pipes and wires.cam sensor is more comon for going wrong.crank senors normaly show a fault due to duel mass flywheel going wrong

[poona]

So random cutting out with coil flashing would be indicative of a cam sensor or a crank sensor in your opinion?

[chiefengineer]

If it is re-occuring a lot, it sounds likely there is a fault of some kind. Unfortunately, that is where my level of expertise ends.

It has never re-occured on my car, despite the way I hammer it!

I had the ECU upgrade just after I bought the car, and it was still under warranty.

Jeremy

[dreaddan]

Probably worth asking on Mondeo Enthusiasts Group It can point to several things, inc knackered injectors (dont worry its under warrenty).

Dan
edit: fixed forum name

[JMio]

My 52 Plate TDCi Mondeo has just started doing the same thing, wouldn't start last night & had the Flashing Glowplug light, then once it did start it died (whilst doing 70 on the motorway!!).

Also seemed like it wasn't running on full power just before it cut out... very weird!

Booked into the ord dealership for Wednesday so here's hoping...

[killsville]

A friend of mine has just got rid of his 02 plate Mondeo Diesel.

Had a lot of problems with starting and poor running. Took it in to local Ford dealer who told him it was a problem relating to the fuel pump (High pressure pump) and that it would cost the best part of £1000 to put right.

And I thought running my BMW would be expensive! Almost eight years of motoring, with 100,000 miles under it's belt, and only repair (apart from wear & tear items such as brakes) has been a water pump.

[JMio]

Just been quoted from the dealer for £195.09 for a replacement Camshaft Position Sensor, plus wiring & a recalibration of the injectors...


Ouch.! Ya bugger - I've only had the car a week!!! (Private Sale!)

Its a bugger with the new cars as you cant do alot with them. you can search for the topic on the internet and it will tell you how to replace it. if you are good with your spanner.

sorry . a quick thing. under neath the steering column there is a connection of some type that supplies the power to the engine from the ignition. i had a ford fiesta. Same problem diesel lights showing. it conked out twice second time would not start. called the rac who undid the steering column cover and tightned a loose wire. no probs afterwards.

[chiefengineer]

Luckily I've not had the problem since. I'd leave it to a pro anyway.

I do computers, not cars!

Jeremy

I am a c+g certified engineer. Still made no diffre