Diesel 03 Mondeo - Flashing Glowplug Light - Page 3

Chunwai · 12th March 2007, 17:04

Bit the bullet and decided to get a secound opinuion on Saturday from a FORD dealer. £88 for a diag said it would take all day - didn't only took a few hours - only fault they found was the ECU need upgrading, I was told this would cause this type of problem and I should have a fully working car. Monday morning going to work whilst over taking same problem came back, just glad ther was a layby on the right hand side of the road

, phoned ford who have said they will need to run a FULL diag and a 10 point check this time and it would take ALL day. (so I'm going to ask what did I paid for on Saturday thought that was for a full diag.)

mondybob · 13th March 2007, 20:20

Here another one for you, same situation, Mondeo 130TDCI 51 plate, just had new plugs due to one misfiring, but have always had a stutter around 2000rpm, and today the magic light came on, turned it off 30 secs later it started back up and ran.

Unfortunatly its not runnign like a 130 as i got taken by my mates 105bhp 2.0di Rover. Ford quoted me £85.20 for the diagnostics but I am abit worried that it wont show anything and its £85.20.

Ive looked online at diagnostic cables and software and they start at around £60 does anyone have any experience with any of these kits??

Chunwai · 13th March 2007, 22:04

2nd diag pointer to fual filter the filter was a therd party one that was fitted by a local garage, I was told that it contained a lot of water they tested my fual and it was slightly contaminated but not enough to sugest that the pump had gone yet... if this does not fix it next step is to replace the fual pump at £800 fitted not cheap. might just trade the thing in. Need to test on a long run.

fluffycloud · 23rd March 2007, 14:44

I had the same fault on a brand new VW Golf TDi a few years ago, my auto electrician hubby took it straight back to where it was bought insisting they fix it (he would have but as it was 2 weeks old decided they might as well do it for all the money the car cost us.. it was a principal thing) anyway... it was a brake light switch that had malfunctioned causing the glow plug light to flash as and when it felt like it! We didnt keep the car long I must admit! Then the petrol guage and dash stopped working !

Chunwai · 29th March 2007, 16:21

After fuel filter was changed the car ran great for one day till I had the flashing Glowpug light again this time the course was the break light switch. Been fine for the past 2 weeks a friend of mine had a simler problem but he also had starting problems he took it to a Diesal specalist cost of £41 pounds for a full diag and fix - one of his injectors bolts were loose they tightened it up he say it's running excelent now

chris2211 · 1st April 2007, 22:15

Hi, this is my first post on this site, I have a 03 plate Mondeo tdci 115 auto estate, it has 90,000 miles on it with full ford service history, im the second owner, the first being a leasing company so no expense was spared. It started cutting out about 3 weeks ago, luckily I was on quiet streets in Blackpool when it happened, but low and behold flashing glowpug light came on today, looked in the manual but nothing was in it about the problem. just entered it into google and i was amazed how wide spread the problem is!!! It mainly seems to be 03 plate mondeos tdci, I read some of the other threads and I was very concerned that other peoples cars were cutting out at high speed on motorways, I travel a lot around the North West and up to now (touch wood) I have had no trouble with it cutting out at high speed, does anybody know if it gets worse from slow speeds to faster speeds over time before cutting out?? Think I will visit ford garage tomorrow to see what they have to say about it. Has any one ever got a decent discout by printing out all these threads and showing them to ford garages and/or Ford customer service?? they must know that there is a serious problem with these engines!!

pistolpars · 3rd April 2007, 20:28

Hello all this is my first post i drive a 2003 mondeo tdci 115 ps with 104,000 on the clock and a full service history.I had a problem with the glow plug flashing and loss of power.I switched off the engine and restarted and it ran smoothly.The problem has returned it is so bad it does it nearly all the time ie start off with good power get to betwwen 2000 and 3000 rpm and then the glow plug light comes on and loss of power

but keeps going although not at full power.On several occasions the power has dropped and the engine has died all together.I turn it off and on again then drive for another mile

then its gone again.It was suggested i change the cam position sensor which i did at a cost of £14

this hasnt seemed to cure it.Any suggestions before i book it in to my main dealer for a pricey diagnosis.Thanks in advance "pistol"

Chunwai · 18th April 2007, 14:22

Since Dixon ford ran a diag and changed my fuel filter and my break light switch problem the car has been OK started blowing a bit of black smoke but as not cut out on me since Cost me just under a ton. A friend of mine who's problem were similer but with starting problem's took his to a Deisal specalist Cost him £41 diag and fix of one injector which had a lose nut on it.

Knight-rider · 18th April 2007, 15:06

Hi, I am a new member and this is my first post.

I have the same problem. About a month ago, the glow plug light started flashing and running rough. Got to where I was going and then on way home, car started fine and no more flashing light.

Couple of weeks ago, the car took 3 attempts before it started, however once it did there was no flashing light, and car ran well.

Today however driving into work I noticed the light started to flash again, and run a little reluctantly and the engine sounded noisier especially from low revs to about 3000 revs. Lunchtime went out in it and again it started fine but light still flashing and running not as normal with smae npise levels as this morning.

Having read this thread, It seems there are number of faults it could be (Cam sensor, crank sensor, EGR(?) valve, brake light (not sure if previous posts have meant a broken bulb or a problem with teh brake light circuit??) - and so its best to get the fault properly diagnosed.

My question is whether this can only be done by FORD, or wether someone like Nationwide Autocentres (owned/run by the AA) can also do it?

Also is a cam sensor only available from a Ford dealer (assuming I have a go at just replacing this to begin with - if so does anyone have a link to where I can get a visual as to how to do it)?

Many Thanks for any assistance you are able to offer.

pistolpars · 18th April 2007, 16:45

Hi just an update on my cars problem.I changed the cam position sensor and also the crank position sensor and BINGO she is flying again and it cost £14 for the cam sensor and £24 for the crank sensor took about 30 mins to fit both of them where as ford want over £200 to do the job. i am well

thought i was gonna be in for a whopping big bill gotta be worth a shot.I also replaced the glow plugs £11 each and starting is a breeze now i love my mondeo again HOOOOOOORAY.....

Chunwai · 18th April 2007, 17:45

Any place with the right diag tools should be able to carry out test on your car, Nationwide may be OK to do it but get them to use Ford parts, Ford thinks my problem was coursed buy having a 3rd party fuel filter installed (Unibond) You could also try a Diesal specalist. Ford may have been a bit more expensive but it could have been my fault for getting a cheap service else were. Good luck.

Icicle19 · 18th April 2007, 20:46

This has been a really interesting thread - I've only found it today. The lack of power problem is similar to the problem I've got with my diesel mondeo, but I don't have the glowplug warning light and nor does the engine cut out. Does anyone know if the symptoms I've got - see below for details - are a precursor to this glowplug/cutting out problem? Or have I got a different problem ?? If so, anyone got any idea what it is? Many thanks.

Ford Mondeo II estate, 02reg, 113k, 115hp Duratorq D6BA engine.
Symptoms:- distinct lack of power, feels 'flat', really struggles up long motorway hills at 50mph, in third or fourth gear, smoking more than usual, esp at high speed (80-90mph) when significant clouds of smoke can be seen. Struggles at 70mph or so on the flat or on slight inclines on motorway and A roads, difficult to overtake other vehicles, no acceleration possible under these circumstances.
Engine revs freely when not under load (ie not in gear), but under load it struggles. A regular 'kick' or 'cough' can be felt between 2800 and 3000 rpm, as if the engine is not running right, and it simply doesn't respond/accelerate like it used to . The engine seems slightly better in the morning than in the afternoon, though I understand this is normal as the cooler air gives a denser charge than the warmer air in the afternoon. So this may be irrelevant I guess ??
Car has been serviced regularly, there are no warning lights lit and the temp gauge is normal. I've thought of changing the fuel and air filter to ensure sufficient air and fuel are getting through, but as these are changed at the appropriate service intervals I doubt this will make much difference. Of course, don't know for sure until I try!

Icicle19 · 18th April 2007, 21:34

Done a bit more digging - seems like it may be a faulty EGR valve, so will investigate that further.

cam1859 · 22nd April 2007, 23:39

I have a Mondeo 03 TDci 2.0 Ghia X 130 bhp and about a month ago started to experience similar problems to those already mentioned in this thread. At first, I didn't notice the glowplug light flashing, but the last three times, it has started flashing before the engine cuts out.

I have had the RAC, a local garage and Ford diagnose the fault and nothing has registered on the computer. I have also had the fuel filter replaced, but this has not sorted out the problem. The local Ford garage said that they noticed a significant drop in revs when the air-con was on and suggested it needed a new compressor. I drove it for over a week without the air-con and it still cut out. I only usually experience this problem when the car is doing 40 mph or less, but the car is very difficult to maneouvre when power steering is lost.

pistolpars · 23rd April 2007, 09:30

What you describe is the same what happened to my car.IT has to be worth changing the crank and cam sensors total cost about £40 diy fit is not too difficult the cam sensor is located at front of the engine by the glow plugs and the crank sensor is at the rear of the engine where the gearbox meets the flywheel i hope this helps keep us posted..............

cam1859 · 14th May 2007, 23:31

Purchased new cam shaft position sensor from Ford at a cost of just over £12 + VAT. It took no longer than 5 minutes to replace and the car has been fine ever since. Thanks for all who mentioned this.

alivingstone · 24th May 2007, 19:57

I'm having similar problems.

Bought a 2004 Mondeo 2.0 (115hp) TDCi on Tuesday night from auction.
Thought I'd got a bargin!

Have done about 80 miles in the last two days.
Yesterday I twice lost power doing about 30mph around town and glow plug lamp flashed but car did not cut out. I pulled over, stopped and restarted the engine immediately and everything was OK.

Today I was accelerating between 70 and 80 while overtaking on the motorway when I lost power and lamp started flashing, as I pulled over to the central hard sholder the engine stalled totally.

Again I was able to immediately restart the engine and continue without any problems.

One post suggested I try reving the engine - I can hold the car reving at any rpm up to the red line for ages and it doesn't jump about or hunt up and down.

Looking at previous posts it looks like this could cost me anything from £15 to £2000! As it came from auction with no service history I suspect it will be the higher of these two figures!

Local (expensive) Ford dealer said it sounds like something to do with the fuel system and are taking it in on Monday. Is there any point in me replacing the Cam Sensor myself this weekend?

One thing I do notice however is that it is rough when it just ticks over at 750 rpm. I get a bit of 'shudder' and hunting up and down the revs and it feels like the engine is about to stall, if I bring the rpm up to about 850 - 900 it ticks over nicely and there is no shudder.

Would this have anything to do with the shudder and hunting at idle speed or is this totally unrelated to the glow plug flashing and loss of power?

pistolpars · 28th May 2007, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by alivingstone

I'm having similar problems.

Bought a 2004 Mondeo 2.0 (115hp) TDCi on Tuesday night from auction.
Thought I'd got a bargin!

Have done about 80 miles in the last two days.
Yesterday I twice lost power doing about 30mph around town and glow plug lamp flashed but car did not cut out. I pulled over, stopped and restarted the engine immediately and everything was OK.

Today I was accelerating between 70 and 80 while overtaking on the motorway when I lost power and lamp started flashing, as I pulled over to the central hard sholder the engine stalled totally.

Again I was able to immediately restart the engine and continue without any problems.

One post suggested I try reving the engine - I can hold the car reving at any rpm up to the red line for ages and it doesn't jump about or hunt up and down.

Looking at previous posts it looks like this could cost me anything from £15 to £2000! As it came from auction with no service history I suspect it will be the higher of these two figures!

Local (expensive) Ford dealer said it sounds like something to do with the fuel system and are taking it in on Monday. Is there any point in me replacing the Cam Sensor myself this weekend?

One thing I do notice however is that it is rough when it just ticks over at 750 rpm. I get a bit of 'shudder' and hunting up and down the revs and it feels like the engine is about to stall, if I bring the rpm up to about 850 - 900 it ticks over nicely and there is no shudder.

Would this have anything to do with the shudder and hunting at idle speed or is this totally unrelated to the glow plug flashing and loss of power?

Also try changing the fuel filter .I did this and the car is running better than ever with no faults apparent.its gotta be worth a try

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