Do i stand any chance? - Page 2

sparkyone · 2nd December 2007, 23:51

Thanks for your comment gizmo111. the agreement was talked over a year before and put on paper the yearly rates of pay to year april 07.

gizmo111 · 2nd December 2007, 23:53

And we have now passed the to April 07 pay round, the rises we are talking about now are the year to April 08.

bazak1 · 2nd December 2007, 23:55

yep, mine was a pathetic 2.4%.
unison balloted for industrial action but it was a close call so they decided against it. i understands where the OP is coming from, but i've never heard of ANY company ( although keeping you waiting months ) paying you interest on your raise when you finally got it. have to admit though, it would only take just one case to win in court and then who knows...........
Remember the time when we couldnt get our charges back from banks and now look..................... ....

gizmo111 · 3rd December 2007, 00:00

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( although keeping you waiting months ) paying you interest on your raise when you finally got it. have to admit though, it would only take just one case to win in court and then who knows...........

Which I doubt would ever happen, as the argument would be that the employer made a offer in the beginning and AFAIK there is no right to have a pay rise every year. I certainly wouldn't take my employer to court for around £13 in lost interest.

sparkyone · 3rd December 2007, 00:03

OK, why should we wait and think 'O' Our yearly pay rise, but its ok as we will be paid a backdate from april and think nothing of it. They go through talks every year? which we know we get a yearly pay rise from the nhs and go without untill then. Why? its owed to you and we need to make a stand..

saintly_1 · 3rd December 2007, 00:10

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Originally Posted by sparkyone

OK, why should we wait and think 'O' Our yearly pay rise, but its ok as we will be paid a backdate from april and think nothing of it. They go through talks every year? which we know we get a yearly pay rise from the nhs and go without untill then. Why? its owed to you and we need to make a stand..

We wait because although the pay rise may be annual the exact amount is subject to talks with the union as to the exact percentage ...... the unions want to get you the best deal that they can .... would you be happy accepting the first figure that your employer offers ?

sparkyone · 3rd December 2007, 00:16

This is not an argument but the fact remains 'we all in the nhs 'private bodies' get paid an annual rise and wait for it months down the line. Its A Pay rise every year and get it but have to wait. why? it gains huge interest to them with whats owed to us.....

saintly_1 · 3rd December 2007, 00:20

My post above answers the 'why wait' ...

sparkyone · 3rd December 2007, 00:28

Thats not it.. Talks were made prior to april as to the rise for contracted staff and put on paper the yearly rises.. same really goes to the nhs staff aswell that have to wait even though there's a yearly rise. its like false information.

gizmo111 · 3rd December 2007, 00:34

Talks may well have started before April, but were not agreed until Nov, this agreement is now in the process of being paid out.
I suggest you talk to your union rep if your situation is differnt to above and explore the possibility of your union negotiating the interest you feel you ahve lost on your behalf.

Good Luck and let us know how you get on.

sparkyone · 3rd December 2007, 00:47

Not agreed to november? i wonder why? Yes the agreement is in progress to be paid out so even though the nhs staff have waited yet again as well as contracted staff... they know this..... there all out playing golf and rubbing there hands using the interest of our pay. I speak for all nhs staff aswell as contracted staff. We want it back.....the interset they've gained..... POWER TO THE PEOPLE

gizmo111 · 3rd December 2007, 00:56

I really cannot help you anymore after this post, negotiations went on until Nov, as Unison were balloting members for strike action.
I really do not know who you think is playing golf on your perceived small amount of interest. It is not your money until it has been agreed, backdated and paid.
As above Isuggest you talk to your union rep

sparkyone · 3rd December 2007, 01:09

I go for everones interest gizmo111. Unison are fighting for us, we are not the nhs as they have there payrise before we do. As for the small amount what could be owed to us even if its a couple of pence 'its something'. i must appolgise you must be on good pay as you wouldnt fight for as what you said ' #13 pound in lost interest.

sparkyone · 3rd December 2007, 01:26

Thanks bazak1 for your comments

MilkTrayMan · 3rd December 2007, 01:44

The NHS is paid for by taxpayers.
Any interest earned by your delayed pay rise payment, is offset against the general tax burden of taxpayers.
As U are a taxpayer yourself, indirectly this means that U will have less overall tax to pay.
Therefore, U aren't REALLY missing out on the interest earned during the delay of your pay rise payment, are U sparkyone?!

MilkTrayMan · 3rd December 2007, 01:47

Soz...just noticed that U aren't directly funded by the NHS...

But the principle is just the same.
...Justs take a while for the pennies to filter through the outsourcing contract system.

cal37 · 3rd December 2007, 06:04

Unless you have in writing ( or the union does ) stating that you have been awarded X amount pay rise back dated till april, then you can not force the c

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