Disabled Baby & Sacking issue

[bazak1]

this is true cal37, and fair play to them for being understanding. I think the post that stated that some employers say that illness is predictable has a fair point but to be honest , illness predictable. how,?
if your child/relative is ill for eg: on a weekend and then your phoned on a wednesday and told they're still no better, can you go immediately, then yes thats different.
but, how many of us have had children that you leave at school at 9am, only to be phoned at 11.30 and told that they are actually being sick or whatever. In the majority of cases, you have NO idea that they are ill, so how can you predict that you will need time off.

[honey5]

Originally Posted by poppynurse

I work for the NHS! Obviously you cannot predict when a dependant is going to be ill but HR take the view that a dependant will be ill at some point so the employee should have a contingency plan so that they can still attend work.
I argued these policies (attendance and special leave) with the assistant director of HR and he was adament that they can discipline people for poor attendance regardless of reason, the special leave policy is designed to cover unforseeable events - he says a dependant being ill at some point is forseeable. He cited cases from ET where employee was sacked for failing to achieve 95% attendance and the dismissal was upheld.
Not saying I agree with this policy.

im not sure which trust you work for but i certainly know if i was employed by the same one i wouldnt have a job right now, i took 18 months off when the twins were born... all paid, then had to be in hospital with them at various different times during the next 4yrs,
the only thing the NHS can do is send you to Occ Health and if youre covered they dont have a leg to stand on FORTUNATELY
honey x

[morteee]

Originally Posted by cal37

I think all employers in this day and age should be understanding where ill children are concerned.

Its easy for them to say get a relative/childminder to care for them. Many people are on nation minimum wage and can not afford a childminder ( if you can get one at short notice ) or might have no relatives/friends able to care for the child.

I believe that most forward thinking companies recognise this and are helpful where they can be.

well my parents work full time and my childminder wont have my son if he is ill in case he infects the other kids in her care, my friends all work full time and also have kids so wont be willing to look after a sick child either

and of course the most important point of all

if MY son is ill then I WANT to care for him myself! It was my choice to bring him into the world and it is MY responsibility to care for him and nurture him! I dont want some neighbor or stranger doing MY duties for me! (my childminder only has him for an hour after school anyway)

[morteee]

Originally Posted by Weird Al Yankovic

Good post morteee.

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[gizmo111]

What an awful lot you work for.
I am allowed 6 days per annum, paid emergency carers leave to a max of 3 days at a time, when my daughter has been ill for longer periods and I have no one to look after her, I have worked from home, to the best of my ability, or used up TOIL, my manager has always said just do what you need to do, and come back when it is sorted. This has also applied in school holidays when previous plans have failed last minute.
I can see why people would go sick for no reason other than needign to look after children/relatives.

[honey5]

Originally Posted by gizmo111

What an awful lot you work for.
I am allowed 6 days per annum, paid emergency carers leave to a max of 3 days at a time, when my daughter has been ill for longer periods and I have no one to look after her, I have worked from home, to the best of my ability, or used up TOIL, my manager has always said just do what you need to do, and come back when it is sorted. This has also applied in school holidays when previous plans have failed last minute.
I can see why people would go sick for no reason other than needign to look after children/relatives.

6 days omg thats shocking we get 13 weeks per year per child (guess i could have the rest of the year off now lol)
honey x

[gizmo111]

Originally Posted by honey5

6 days omg thats shocking we get 13 weeks per year per child (guess i could have the rest of the year off now lol)
honey x

13 weeks per year, paid carers leave? Who do you work for?

[honey5]

the NHS and yes its paid, mind its an old contract too
honey x

[DOBBYDOG]

13 WEEKS :o .Thats more than what your holiday entitlement would be. Are you sure its not 13 days.

13 weeks per child. If you had 4 children and they were all ill for 13 weeks seperatley then you wouldnt need to work at all in that year

[honey5]

no its 13 weeks per child per year , obviously that amount of time would have to be appropriately accounted for and not abused, when i had the twins i had 18months off months full pay 6 months half pay but because of the contractual agreement the dss picked up the other half of my wages which were paid in full until i returned after the 18 month
honey x

[68904]

On such matters as this, Managers just make up the law as they go along, and most employees just accept what they say.
Some HR people are worse than managers cos they do not represent you but the company.
Join a Union, read up on such matters on the net. The net is mine of information.
You always find with bullies if you stand upto them, they go off to pester someone else.