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Old 29th June 2009, 16:19   #41 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I would like to jump on to this boat as well!
Okay, my original DCA was Moorcroft and after sending off a letter regarding the unenforceable CCA - they sent me a letter saying they have closed my account. Great I thought, then my a/c got passed to ARC. I sent them the same letter as the one to Moorcroft, but despite that they keep trying to contact me. I have ignored each call and on 22 Jun 2009 (yes they cannot spell June) I received their TREVOR MUNN solicitors letter. I have continued to ignore these and interestingly they also tried to call me again!

Why are you bothering to call me, I am thinking, when you've threatened me with court action

Anyway, I'm actually thinking of sending Egg a letter offering them a settlement of 10% of the existing balances as full and final settlement of my Egg card and Egg loan. Quite frankly I'm just getting sick of receiving these letter and calls and pathetic responses. If this small amount will get these annoying mosquitoes off my back, I'm happy to 'contribute' this measly amount. What does everyone think?
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I am having the same problems with egg. My account went into default when I lost my job in September 08. I received a call from them and I explained the change in my circumstances and offered to pay £10 a month until my circumstance improved but they did not want to know. They demanded the full monthly payment plus arrears which I could not pay. I have since been getting letters from Moorcroft threatening to take me to court. I have a copy of what may be my original CCA if that helps.

Sorry if I am not making sense I am new to the CAG forum, any help will be appreciated.

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Hi there faramay and welcome you will find all the help you need on here there are some fantastic people on here they are giving me great advice at the moment,
If you could post up your cca that would be good then the more informed caggers can give you their verdict
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that is an interesting one Texanbar (btw if you are looking for an answer, dont read this any further! ) as I have considered similar possibilities.
If we treat this as a balance sheet, then for offering them 10% in F&F is, as you say, peace and quiet in the future.
However, there are three fair sized debits imo
1. getting there. If you or I were to offer Egg 10% would they accept? OK, they might/ might not, but I would be willing to bet that they would treat this as an "opening offer" and that you could be bid up the way. So strategically it might be better to go for say 2% at the outset, let everyone have a good laugh, then go to 5% and very reluctantly go to 10%.
2. it would have to be done very carefully - more "there is a dispute between us about the debt you allege there is between us. You know you cant produce the paperwork to enforce it, and I am fed up with your harassment. How about I give you 2% in full and final settlement and you go away and dont bother me any more". Also, it shouldnt give the impression of "a sign of weakness". Like you and Chris I am getting threatened with Court action by Egg. I am not really bothered about this, as their paperwork has at least five fatal errors in it. But I could do without it. That is why you are thinking of giving them 10%. That is why they continue to harass us when they have no legal route of getting what they want - that we will get tired and give up for a "quiet life".
3. why should we? I havent actually done the calculation - I might end up topping myself - but I would bet whatever money Egg have loaned me, I have paid back at least once, almost certainly twice and maybe even three times. Why should I pay them some more when they are so incompetent that they cant even get the basic paperwork right? I know there is a big issue (rightly) about not encouraging the avoidance of debt, but what about when that debt is just basically unfair, and in any event, they have no legal recourse to make me pay? Only harassment and how right is that?
Oh and btw, they still cant spell June - I got my letter today. So you should be in the queue before me.
Oh yes, one more spooky similarity. They phoned me on Saturday to tell me I was getting the Trevor Munn solicitors letter threatening me with court (something to do with the passage of time - they never seem to give a coherent rationale for anything that they do or say they are going to do - why cant they just do it, or say they will? It would save them making up quite so many lies). So this morning Trevor's letter (of 26 Jun) arrived, but about 4.30 one of the ARC goons phoned to ask me what my response was to their letter of 11th June (this more or less says - in the face of a detailed analysis of the claimed CCA - you've got the paperwork, pay up). This call was unnecessary for two reasons
A. they have already sent me the Trevor Munn letter
B. I replied to this letter the following day (12th) so they know.
In other words, basically this is just harassment. I have consistently told them I wont deal on the phone - they even acknowledge this - but there is always some totally unbaked excuse why they "have to do this" - like on Saturday, "we have to advise you of the letter that will arrive on Monday" - no you dont, you are just at it - AGAIN! That Texanbar is why its worth paying something to get rid of them. At the same time THAT is what they are relying on , that this kind of behaviour will exhaust us and we will pay up.

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Hey SFU,

Thanks for the great response... and yes, I know I have had the exact same thoughts as you and think stuff you one minute and argggggghhh the next!

I just don't know, but one thing I do know for sure, that if I ever do win the lottery, they will most certainly not receive a single penny... or an undated 20 pence piece which I understand is worth £50.

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Hi All,

Just received this letter today from Home Collection Service (Moorcroft)

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Send me a enforceable CCA then and we may talk.

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Hi there faramay and welcome you will find all the help you need on here there are some fantastic people on here they are giving me great advice at the moment,
If you could post up your cca that would be good then the more informed caggers can give you their verdict
Hi All,

I have attached my CCA with egg. I will be writing to them again this week to offer a token payment until my circumstances improve as I am not sure what else I can do at this stage.

Faramay

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Hi,

Just received a call from Fredrickson International, they asked to speak to Me by my first name, I did not twig on and gave them it. They said that they have bought the debt from Egg and want full payment now, I said for them to remove all telephone numbers and for them not to contact me again - this is in dispute with egg.

The woman was a snotty sarcastic pond life.

Any one had any dealings with them
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Old 2nd September 2009, 19:24   #48 (permalink)
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Hi,

Any Help on this issue please ,

In dispute with Egg since Jan 09 - they passed it onto Moorcroft, they have passed this onto Fredrickson International. Egg and Moorcroft have not informed me that this has been passed on.

I thought while its in dispute they can not do this?

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Has anybody had any dealings with Fredrickson International.

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i have been dealing with fredrickson since november last year, i put the account into dispute,cca'd them they sent me back egg's usuall "this is what you signed and it's enforcable cca" which is flawed, so i sent them a letter saying send me a complient cca or i wont pay you any money, that was feb, not paid them since then and not heared a peep from them so i would take it that they have passed it on to another dca.
They have been fine with me but as you have read through the threads all dca's are the same.
As for your dispute, 'by oft guide lines there are not supposed to pass it on while its in dispute but in my experience that means jack to them.
Bottom line is if they can't provide a valid cca by whatever means you have requested it they can't do a thing.
DCA'S cant do jack they have no powers whatsoever only the power to get on your nerve's
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